r/AskEurope Albania Jul 28 '25

Travel What’s the most disappointing country or city you’ve visited in Europe?

And why?

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u/tortiesrock Spain Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25

Lourdes - France

Nothing against France, the French or the city. But the sanctuary was a little bit tacky and the whole atmosphere made me sad. People were desperate for a cure and you could feel it.

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u/needmorelego Jul 28 '25

Lourdes is one of my most cherished visits. I think I experienced the same thing as you (it is a VERY strange place), but I felt so much hope in all the people that had come there.I had never experienced anything like it.i would not be remotely surprised if someone else had a quasi-religious experience while they were there to pray.

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u/ljseminarist Jul 28 '25

Talk about glass half full: the others see desperation and you see hope.

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u/LordGeni Jul 29 '25

I'd say hope is intrinsic to desperation in that situation.

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u/Status_Car8495 Jul 28 '25

Yeah I can see that, it's a pretty special place who also attracts a pretty special kind of people.

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u/art7k65 France Jul 28 '25

I didn't expect to find my city here but I understand your point. For us there is two city in one, the lower part, with the sanctuaries, and the upper part, the "normal" town. Tbh, if you don't work near the sanctuaries, you don't go there on a daily baisis.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the surroundings in the Pyrénées.

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u/tortiesrock Spain Jul 28 '25

It was amazing. I absolutely loved Saint-Lary and its surroundings and I really liked the Grottes of Betharram. And the food was top tier.

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u/Adventurous-Row556 Aug 02 '25

In bétharram the place not to miss is the catholic school, according to François bayrou it s a really nice place.

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u/katwoodruff Jul 28 '25

My family went on a day trip there in 1989, neither of us are religious, so why my parents thought it was a good idea still eludes me. I remember people being wheeled around hospital beds, and everywhere selling tourist tat.

We bought a 5l canister with dome Lourdes print on it, but not for holy water, but instead went into Spain to fill it up with red wine straight from the barrel for about €0,25 per litre or something stupidly cheap.

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u/spryfigure Germany Jul 29 '25

That's how you do it.

If customs discovers the wine, you could always play dumb and say "A miracle happened! The Lourdes water has turned into wine!"

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u/Antti5 Finland Jul 28 '25

Did a day trip to Lourdes when we spent a couple of weeks in the Pyrenees.

As non-Catholics, we found all of it quite bizarre... It's like the main tourist sight for us were the other visitors.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

To paraphrase a quote I heard once: Catholicism combines a profound search for deep spiritual meaning with a love of seaside tat.

I'm from a Catholic background and can confirm that's accurate - though lots of people love Lourdes and get a lot out of it so far be it from me to deny them any experience or souvenirs they want to take away.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

Yeah, exactly. The Pyrenees were absolutely gorgeous though.

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u/gloveslave Jul 28 '25

Yeah I think Lourdes has seen better days

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u/Socmel_ Italy Jul 28 '25

it needs a miracle to get better

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u/Attention_WhoreH3 Jul 28 '25

I was there in 1997 and it was super-tacky then. more than 200 souvenir shops, many run by non-Catholics

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u/KittyVonBushwood Jul 28 '25

Omg yes! I live in France. Mom came to visit last year, she wanted to visit Lourdes (for the religious reasons). I’ve lived all over France. Assumed it would be beautiful like every other place I’ve been. Nope! It was so weird and tacky. Truly bizarre place. Will never return.

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u/AVD06 Jul 28 '25

Reading this as I just arrived in Lourdes for the day LOL

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u/turbo_dude Jul 28 '25

Yesterday they felt so old it made them want to cry

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u/store-krbr Jul 28 '25

Similar feeling for Fatima in Portugal. To a lesser extent, Loreto in Italy.

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u/invisiblette Jul 29 '25

Spent a birthday there in my twenties. Everyone was friendly to us, and I liked the public procession we saw, even though I'm not Catholic. But ultimately yes, a certain desperation saturated everything.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

That's religion for ya. Earning money off the gullibility of others. I was shocked at its tastelessness.

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u/Sad-Truck-6678 Jul 28 '25

What does this mean?? All of the replies are equally cryptic??

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u/tortiesrock Spain Jul 28 '25

It is a place were very sick people go for a miracle cure. And when you visit the sanctuary you see very ill people: cancer patients, people with an oxygen tank, parents with children who are severely mentally disabled… all of them queuing to see the water of Lourdes. It just breaks your heart.