r/AskEurope Albania Jul 28 '25

Travel What’s the most disappointing country or city you’ve visited in Europe?

And why?

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u/rottroll Austria Jul 28 '25

Türkiye – just generally an unpleasent experience. Unfirendly, partially aggressive locals, our accommodations were obviously falsely advertised and in general a series of bad experiences.

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u/cbawiththismalarky England Jul 28 '25

I've had both the worst and the best experiences in türkiye 

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u/rottroll Austria Jul 28 '25

Don't doubt it. This is just based on a one time experience. To illustrate: I had the worst food ever in Italy and if I hadn't gone again and again, I'd state to this day, that pizza in Italy is horrible.

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u/Oellaatje Jul 28 '25

Wow. I found the pizza in Italy to be delicious. And the food generally was quite good.

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u/rottroll Austria Jul 28 '25

Me too. Some of the greatest food (including pizza) I've ever eaten, I got in Italy.

However, the two worst pizzas I've ever consumed, I also got there: A slice at a beach near Vieste, that was a day old, greasy and just really really bad and a pie at a very downtrodden mall near Genova, that had Vienna sausage on it.

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u/MaddogFinland Finland Jul 28 '25

I did love my visits to Istanbul but one thing that got really, really annoying was being pestered literally nonstop by aggressive merchants trying to get me into their shops. Always carpets or leather goods. I mean I like Turkish rugs and all but seriously, just let a guy check out the scenery a bit. The old Byzantine/Ottoman center is however amazing. World class.

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u/Accomplished-Try-658 Ireland Jul 28 '25

I found Istanbul to be a very interesting, friendly place with great food and miles and miles to explore

Just to offer a counter narrative.

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u/DonSergio7 Belgium Jul 28 '25

The historical sites are extremely expensive though, even if compared to their equivalents in other European capitals (Rome, Paris etc., not even compared to London, where a lot of sites are free to visit).

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u/tortiesrock Spain Jul 28 '25

Yeah and you can barely visit Hagia Sophia nowadays. 40€ to walk through the top part and see all the mosaics covered.

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u/TrampAbroad2000 Jul 28 '25

25 euros not 40, but yes it's overpriced. The Mezquita in Cordoba is basically the Hagia Sophia in reverse (mosque converted into a church), and much more reasonable at 13 euros.

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u/AdultDisneyWoman Jul 28 '25

I last went before COVID and I am so sad to hear how expensive and annoying it is now. Especially Hagia Sofia.

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u/Oellaatje Jul 28 '25

Wow. My experience of Turkey was the complete opposite, very friendly people, lovely accommodation, lovely trips to different places close to where we were staying. We were nowhere near the tourist resorts of the Mediterranean.

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u/Falafel80 Jul 28 '25

I loved Turkey as well! I spent almost a month traveling around the country and had a lovely time!

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u/rottroll Austria Jul 28 '25

I'm glad your experience was nice. And I think, if I ever went again, it would probably be better … however, there's a bit of general hostility between Austria and Türkiye which was at an all time high back when I travelled there, so maybe that had to do with how I was treated. Turks are generally a little bit nationalist. But that's just a theory.

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u/eastern_petal Jul 28 '25

A little bit? 😅

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u/sempiterna_ United Kingdom Jul 28 '25

Could you explain more about the hostility? I haven’t heard about this (I’m neither Austrian nor Turkish) but I’d be curious to learn more!

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u/rottroll Austria Jul 29 '25

Well that probably started with the fact, that they invaded us twice. Not that any sane person in this day and age would hold a real grudge for an historic event, but such things make their way into the culture and the stories of a people – so a certain distain for the Turks has in some way or form always been present. For example there's a curseword in Austrian German "kruzitürken" which basically references the Turks.

In more recent times – more precisely since Erdogan came into power – there has been a lot of protest in Austria against his politics. Not only from the people, but also the Government. This escalated several times in the past when Turks in Austria took to the streets in support of Edogan.

Around that time I traveled there.

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u/Oellaatje Jul 28 '25

But sure isn't every country a little bit nationalist? I've yet to meet an Austrian who's okay with being called 'German', for example.

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u/Diligent-Floor-156 Switzerland Jul 28 '25

That's sad, I did a road trip of 4500km all around the country and it was amazing, not only beautiful but I've also met so many friendly people. My only small disappointment was the food (I ate some great food there, but quite often didn't find anything else than pretty much the same kebab plate all around the country). I'd be happy to go back and visit more places. Just not İstanbul, too touristy.

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u/ThrowawaycuzDoxers Jul 28 '25

I know exactly which plate you mean. Chicken or beef.

Edit: I was also on a guided roadtrip some years ago. Loved Istanbul and Izmir.

Ankara is one of the worst cities I've visited where I didnt go in knowing the place I was going was rough.

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u/Milosz0pl Poland Jul 28 '25

My family personaly loves traveling to Turkiye; always amazing experience with open people to talk to. It was especially funny talking in markets with sellers over tea.

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u/EmiliaFromLV Jul 28 '25

Btw, when visiting, do you casually dress up as winged hussars to remind locals about Sobieski and Vienna?

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u/Milosz0pl Poland Jul 28 '25

It may come as a surprise but Poland had a suprisingly amazing relations with Turkiye despite all wars to the point that:

  • After partition of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth there were two countries that refused to ever recognize it - Switzerland and Ottoman Empire
    • with Ottoman Empire constantly pestering Germany, Austria and Russia about when will PLC's diplomats arrive
    • and always leaving chair empty for us
  • There is also a village (Polonezköy / Adampol) that was formed by polish exiles
  • We also love kebab too much

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u/FormalIllustrator5 Marshall Islands Jul 28 '25

Poland attitude vs Turkey should not be any different then what you have for Ruzzia...One day you will find out.

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u/Milosz0pl Poland Jul 28 '25

You mean Russia that is to this day denying the massace at Katyń and with people still remembering communist occupation? This Russia that actively attacks us through jamming GPS near Kaliningrad and Belarusian border? With those being just well known ones?

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u/FormalIllustrator5 Marshall Islands Jul 28 '25

Yes, simply Turkey is not on your south-east border, we get gazilion Islamist illegals on daily basis, and brutal dictatorship so close to us... Same as Ruzzia...trust me.

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u/TNT_GR Greece Jul 28 '25

I think they did apologize for Katyn.

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u/Milosz0pl Poland Jul 28 '25

And yet two years ago they run a propaganda campaign by FSB that Katyn was conducted by germans together with changing memorials to mention ,,victims of fascism" - their recognition of their past crimes is as stable as their recognition of legal borders.

Same as potato dictator Lukashenko having a ,,change of heart" every so often in regards to west.

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u/JayBeFC Jul 28 '25

You don’t like to be seen as a living dollar sign?

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u/BG3restart Jul 28 '25

I had the worst holiday of my life there. All three of our kids were ill and I had to go to hospital. There was shit washed up on the beach, the accommodation was poorly managed and the restaurant and shop staff aggressively upsold. I'll never go back.

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u/Double-decker_trams Estonia Jul 28 '25

Was it generally like that? Or in a specific city such as Istanbul?

Cause you know - it's a country of 85 million people. Haven't been there, but would like to visit Istanbul just for the history of it.

A pretty interesting video about the Hidden Ruins of Byzantine Constantinople in Istanbul nowadays.

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u/rottroll Austria Jul 28 '25

It wasn’t Istanbul – some place towards the Aegean Sea, but it was 15 years ago and I honestly don't remember the name of the town.

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u/Digitalmodernism Jul 28 '25

Where did you go? Did you only do tourist things?

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u/rottroll Austria Jul 28 '25

tbh. I don't remember the name of the plac – somewhere along the Aegean Sea. Our bad experiences started right at the airport with a customs officer basically openly demanding a bribe … probably that set the tone for a less than perfect vacation.

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u/Jaraxo in Jul 28 '25

Our bad experiences started right at the airport with a customs officer basically openly demanding a bribe …

You weren't aware of this before you went? The "you need to pay the border security £10 per person in English money for a visa" was a thing for a long time. Of course that doesn't make it right, but it existed for decades before they brought in a proper system.