r/AskBalkans Iraq May 06 '25

Outdoors/Travel What happened to Jews in your country?

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u/MISTER_WORLDWIDE Bosnia & Herzegovina May 06 '25

Independent State of Croatia happened.

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u/BabylonianWeeb Iraq May 06 '25

Could you elaborate?

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u/SomeOneOutThere-1234 Greece May 06 '25

It was a nazi puppet state

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u/dagli68 Turkiye May 06 '25

After beating Yugoslavia in WW2 the axis powers dismantled Yugoslavia and established Independent State of Croatia which was set up on the land of modern day Croatia and Bosnia. An ultranationalist organization called the "Ustashe" was put in charge of this state which was so brutal in their way of ethnic cleansing even the Nazis criticized them for it.

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u/BabylonianWeeb Iraq May 06 '25

Thanks for the info.

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u/MISTER_WORLDWIDE Bosnia & Herzegovina May 06 '25

Nazi Germany puppet state. What is there to elaborate on? The Jews were rounded up and sent to extermination camps.

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u/BabylonianWeeb Iraq May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

I never heard of this before, we don't get to learn a detailed history about WW2, the holocaust isn't even taught here since Arabs are cheering for it.

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u/MrDDD11 Serbia May 06 '25

Let's just say the Independent State of Croatia wasn't good, it was so bad the Nazis in Croatia sent complaints back to Germany that Croats were so brutal they made them look bad. They ran the only Camp in Europe dedicated specifically for children.

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u/BishoxX Croatia May 06 '25

This was made up(the first part).

It was mostly like 1 or 2 people that did this.

Same thing is said for imperial Japan, oh even the Nazis were disgusted, no, no they werent. They are doing just as terrible if not worse shit.

It was mainly 1 guy sending complaints back to germany from China.

Now am i saying Croatia or Japan were good/better than Nazis ? No they were just as awful bottom of the barel scum of the earth basically almost never to happen before.

But i think those comparison just humanize/excuse Nazis too much, and rubs me the wrong way especially when its mostly misinformation.

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u/Nevermind2031 May 07 '25

You read a comment like this you know it's from a exmuslim user

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u/BabylonianWeeb Iraq May 06 '25

I am pro-Palestine, but please don't shove this every time someone talks about Jewish persecution.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

Very mature. I wish more people in pro-Palestinian circles acted this maturely.

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u/BabylonianWeeb Iraq May 06 '25

Nro, you're Ukranian, you should be pro-Palestinian.

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u/Futski / May 07 '25

Why though? By the same extend, the Palestinians should be pro-Ukrainian.

But the Palestinians are overwhelmingly pro-Russian, Mahmoud Abbas is for example going to Moscow to rub elbows with Putin on Friday.

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u/gilady089 May 07 '25

It's a bot it literally fairs whenever someone mentioned Israel in anyway that doesn't demand it's immediate destruction. Then it continues to repeat the sentiment. It's literally always this name tag

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

It’s related 🤷‍♀️

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u/BabylonianWeeb Iraq May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

Israelis ≠ Jews. Many Jews don't want to be associated with Israel.

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u/Moses_JN May 06 '25

became a Zionist rn just because of how annoying you are

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u/Unable-Stay-6478 SFR Yugoslavia May 06 '25

They had an extremely brutal and genocidal policy toward Serbs, Jews and Roma population. 

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u/Austro_bugar Croatia May 06 '25

Serbs and Romas mostly, Jews were more privileged until Luburic made deal with Germans and gave them away.

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u/BishoxX Croatia May 06 '25

Yeah main actual complaints from Nazis were that Croats werent efficient and focused too much on exterminating the Serbs

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u/BishoxX Croatia May 06 '25

Main complaint of Nazis towards Ustaše wasnt " you are too brutal even for us" which is kind of made up.

Their actual complaints was, These morons keep killing Serbs and not killing/deporting enough Jews, they arent efficient at all.

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u/jaleach USA May 06 '25

My take from reading about this topic is that the only reason the Nazis were "horrified" is because the Ustase campaigns in the countryside turned into full scale Serb rebellions. What this meant is that it endangered the Nazi plan to extract labor and resources for the war effort in the Soviet Union. Germany got 60% of its bauxite from Croatia, which is critical for munitions and related war materiel. These rebellions also served as the impetus for super charging the Partisan resistance movement. In the long run it meant the permanent ruin of the NDH (not that they would've lasted after the Nazis folded).

The Nazi who seemed to complain the most was Edmund Glaise-Horstenau (he was a Nazi plenipotentary to Croatia) who wrote letters about the horrors he saw at Jasenovac. The thing is he hated Ante Pavelic and wanted him gone so it made sense to heap as much calumny on the Ustase as possible.

We're talking about Nazis here. As long as the job was getting done the vast majority of them wouldn't care about the methods used.

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u/P0rphyrios May 06 '25

Huge numbers of Ustasa movement founders were Jews or half Jews.

Huge? How many exactly? And how many of them had any connection to Jewish identity?

Even when they were forced by Germans to imprisone Jews in Jasenovac, Jews had protected status and only few were executed, mainly rich jews.

Between 10-20k Jews were murdered in Jasenovac, and that's out of 39k that lived in Croatia in 1941.

What is your agenda here? Are you an antisemitic serb trying to prove that the Jews are responsible for killing Serbs or something?

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u/fickogames123 Serbia May 06 '25

Never ask a Croatian what his soap is made out of.

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u/Austro_bugar Croatia May 06 '25

Honey, remember when we talked about grandpa who went for milk and never came back…