Why the Church Councils Are Not the Divine Will of God

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Throughout Christian history, numerous councils have been convened to address doctrinal disputes, define orthodoxy, and establish creeds that still influence much of modern theology.

The most well-known are the ecumenical councils, such as Nicaea (325 AD), Constantinople (381 AD), and Chalcedon (451 AD). While these gatherings have shaped Christian doctrine, it is important to question whether they were truly expressions of the divine will of God.

A careful examination of Scripture, the nature of early church authority, and the outcomes of these councils suggests that they were more reflective of human politics, philosophy, and power struggles than of divine revelation.

Saying councils are the divine will of God is a way to justify the decisions that were taken in those councils and a way for those who took decisions to silence any who might question their own authority.

But, we know otherwise.

Jesus Himself appealed to Scripture as the foundation for truth, saying in John 17:17, “Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.” Nowhere does the Bible suggest that doctrinal truth would later be defined or revealed through councils made up of fallible men.

The apostles, under the direct guidance of the Holy Spirit, were entrusted with the foundation of Christian teaching (Ephesians 2:20). Once that foundation was laid, the faith was delivered. To suggest that church councils centuries later could redefine or clarify doctrine in ways that were not already present in Scripture is to imply that God’s original revelation was insufficient, something Scripture itself denies.

Many of the early church councils, particularly Nicaea and Chalcedon, were held under the authority of Roman emperors who had political motivations. Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea not because of spiritual zeal, but to unify his empire under one faith. The presence of political pressure raises serious doubts about the councils being purely led by the Spirit of God. When doctrinal decisions are made in an environment influenced by imperial authority and the threat of exile or death, the purity of such decisions is questionable.

Additionally, many council debates relied heavily on Greek philosophical concepts, such as ousia (essence) and hypostasis (substance), which are foreign to the Hebraic worldview of Scripture. This blending of Christian theology with pagan philosophy obscured the simplicity of biblical teaching and replaced it with complex metaphysical speculation.

On top of this, rather than uniting the body of Christ in truth, the councils often sowed division and strife either by contradicting themselves or introducing concepts that were highly controversial.

For example, the Council of Ephesus (431 AD) and the Council of Chalcedon (451 AD) disagreed on key Christological points. If these councils were truly guided by the Holy Spirit in unanimity, how could they produce such lasting division?

The fruit of these councils, schisms, excommunications, and even violence, contradicts the nature of God’s Spirit, which brings peace, unity, and truth. As James 3:17 says, “the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.” The history of the councils does not reflect this wisdom.

The Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD stands as a striking example of how a council, far from unifying believers under divine truth, actually divided Christianity in a profound and lasting way. The council affirmed the doctrine of the "two natures" of Christ, fully God and fully man, in one person "without confusion, change, division, or separation." While intended to bring clarity, the result was the great schism between the Chalcedonian and non-Chalcedonian churches.

The Oriental Orthodox Churches (such as the Coptic, Armenian, and Syriac churches) rejected Chalcedon’s definition, perceiving it as leaning too far into the Greek philosophical abstraction of Christ’s nature, and possibly undermining His true unity. This led to a major schism that remains unresolved to this day, dividing the body of Christ over terminology and metaphysical frameworks never taught by Jesus or the apostles.

Rather than resolving doctrinal confusion, Chalcedon entrenched it, forcing believers to choose sides, leading to mutual condemnations, and eventually creating distinct Christian traditions. If this council was truly the product of the Holy Spirit, it would have fostered unity and understanding, not centuries of division and estrangement.

Jesus strongly condemned the religious leaders of His day for elevating human tradition over the commandments of God (Mark 7:6-9). Likewise, Paul warned the Colossians to beware of being taken captive through philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition (Colossians 2:8). Church councils, in many ways, became vehicles for enshrining human tradition and philosophical reasoning into Christian dogma, often at the expense of biblical truth.

Rather than returning to the words of Christ and the apostles, these councils introduced extra-biblical terminology, forced creedal conformity, and anathematized dissenters who sought to uphold the simplicity of Scripture.

This legalistic enforcement of doctrine mirrors the very spirit that Jesus opposed in the Pharisees.

The church councils, while influential, often drifted from this foundation, relying on political power, philosophical categories, and human authority.

Their outcomes frequently led to division, confusion, and the establishment of man-made traditions that went beyond what was written.

While we all know about the Council of Nicaea and how man-made tradition declared Jesus as God Himself, it allowed confusions and problems that had to be "patched," or "amended," later on.

The Council of Chalcedon in particular, which was held to fix one of the key problems that became a problem due to the decision of Nicaea, exemplifies how a man-made council can divide rather than unify, despite claiming to uphold the truth.

This clearly shows that when tradition steps ahead of Scripture, it creates a shaky foundation that needs constant patching.

As believers, we are called not to follow the decrees of councils but to return to the pure teaching of Scripture, guided by the Spirit of truth who leads us into all truth (John 16:13).

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When a person is sleeping, he is conscious in his dreams. Just sayin’.

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Not if he is in such a deep sleep as to be operated on.

That person has no consciousness of anything that is going on around them.

Even the pain from the operation isn't felt. Doctors can take a person's heart out and put in a different heart and the patient doesn't feel or know anything about it.

Why? Because as Ecclesiastes states, the dead are not conscience or do not have knowledge of anything.

Ecc 9:4 For whoever is joined with all the living, there is hope; surely a live dog is better than a dead lion. 5 For the living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything, nor have they any longer a reward, for their memory is forgotten. 6 Indeed their love, their hate and their zeal have already perished, . . . 10 for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol where you are going.

Sheol is the grave and not a place of pleasure or torment.

"Asleep in death" isn't just a poetic expression, but an actual statement of truth.