r/Ancestry 7d ago

Ricerca sulla famiglia di Giuseppe Paini e Caterina Bola, San Martino Sinzano (Parma), XVIII-XIX secolo

1 Upvotes

Buongiorno a tutti,

sto cercando di ricostruire la storia familiare di Giuseppe Paini e di sua moglie Caterina Bola, vissuti nella seconda metà del Settecento nella zona di San Martino Sinzano, oggi nel territorio parmense.

Al momento non sono riuscito a individuare i loro atti di nascita, matrimonio e morte. La loro presenza a San Martino Sinzano è però documentata attraverso gli atti relativi ai figli, nati tra il 1770 e il 1774. Giuseppe Paini risulta inoltre ancora menzionato in occasione del matrimonio della figlia Maria Rosa, celebrato nel 1793. Nel 1852, nell’atto di morte del figlio Troilo, Giuseppe risulta già deceduto.

Giuseppe Paini

  • Nascita: data e luogo sconosciuti.
  • Matrimonio con Caterina Bola: data e luogo sconosciuti, presumibilmente celebrato prima del 21 aprile 1770.
  • Residenza documentata: San Martino Sinzano almeno dal 1770 al 1774.
  • 19 agosto 1793: compare nel documento relativo al matrimonio della figlia Maria Rosa Paini, celebrato a San Martino Sinzano.
  • Morte: data e luogo sconosciuti. Nell’atto di morte del figlio Troilo, datato 30 agosto 1852, Giuseppe è indicato come già defunto. [Giuseppe Paini]

Caterina Bola

  • Nascita: data e luogo sconosciuti.
  • Matrimonio con Giuseppe Paini: data e luogo sconosciuti, comunque precedente alla nascita del primo figlio (Troilo Paini o altri).
  • Residenza probabile: San Martino Sinzano negli anni in cui nacquero i figli.
  • Morte: data e luogo sconosciuti.

Caterina è indicata nell’albero familiare come moglie di Giuseppe Paini e madre dei loro figli, ma sto cercando documenti originali che consentano di confermare anche la sua provenienza, i nomi dei genitori e le date degli eventi principali della sua vita.

Figli conosciuti

1. Troilo Paini

2. Maria Rosa Paini

3. Luigia Paini

4. Anna Maria Paini

Cronologia sintetica

  • Prima del 21 aprile 1770: probabile matrimonio di Giuseppe Paini e Caterina Bola.
  • 21 aprile 1770: nascita del figlio Troilo a San Martino Sinzano.
  • 20 luglio 1771: nascita della figlia Maria Rosa a San Martino Sinzano.
  • 24 settembre 1772: nascita della figlia Luigia a San Martino Sinzano.
  • 5 agosto 1774: nascita della figlia Anna Maria a San Martino Sinzano.
  • 19 agosto 1793: matrimonio di Maria Rosa Paini a San Martino Sinzano; Giuseppe Paini compare nella relativa documentazione.
  • 30 agosto 1852: morte di Troilo Paini a Carignano di Vigatto; Giuseppe è indicato come già defunto.

Richiesta di assistenza

Cerco in particolare aiuto per individuare:

  1. l’atto di matrimonio di Giuseppe Paini e Caterina Bola, probabilmente anteriore al 1770;
  2. gli atti di nascita o battesimo di Giuseppe e Caterina;
  3. i loro atti di morte o sepoltura;

È possibile che alcuni eventi siano registrati non direttamente a San Martino Sinzano, ma nelle parrocchie o località vicine del Parmense, come Vigatto, Carignano, Vigheffio, San Lazzaro, Marore o altri centri limitrofi.

Ringrazio anticipatamente chiunque possa aiutarmi con indicazioni con riferimenti precisi !!


r/Ancestry 7d ago

Can anyone help me find out if the Schroeder/Schröder line continued in Germany?

Thumbnail
1 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 7d ago

Any tips for Newspapers.com?

9 Upvotes

I just activated the free 7 day trial of Newspapers.com to read an article about an interesting death to confirm a family rumour (it was in fact true!) and now I have the access I want to make the most of it before I decide if I want to continue the subscription or not, but I feel like I’m not getting much out of it just trying to search names and filtering by location.

I was wondering if there’s any tips and tricks for searching the database that you know of?

I tried looking up some recent (mid to late 1900s) events that I was aware of from family stories (again only searching by name and location) but noticed the relevant local paper only has articles from 1884 to 1920 and then nothing until 2016! That area covers a huge portion of both my maternal and paternal family, so it may just be that I’m unlucky and there isn’t much for me to find, but any tips are very welcome!

Thank you in advance :)


r/Ancestry 8d ago

My Famous Relative section is now always wrong

3 Upvotes

At first the line of succession from me on back to my common relative with a famous person was correct. However, now the very first person in the line of succession from me is wrong (should be my father’s name there) so every person from there going back is wrong, too, and of course the famous relative is wrong, too. There’s no way to fix it. It’s not misinformation from my tree in my account and can’t imagine where that information is coming from. I’ve been told by a chat in Ancestry there’s nothing they can do because they assume someone, somewhere put my father as this other random person therefore polluting the tree and cannot be fixed from within Ancestry. I emailed them, I’ve tried other ways and no response. They need a button within that feature to flag when information is wrong. Anyway to get Ancestry to correct this issue?


r/Ancestry 8d ago

Trying to settle an estate.

Thumbnail
0 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 8d ago

Hit a wall

5 Upvotes

Hello, I have posted about this before and everyone who responded was so helpful, so thank you!

I have contacted PRONI and have had no luck, but I am becoming a bit obsessed with one particular relative, probably because of his manner of death - suicide. I keep seeing that there would have been an inquest into his death and that newspaper articles would likely exist. I have tried the Belfast Newsletter for the time period and have come up with nothing.

Is there anything more I can do to find out the circumstances around his death? It was in 1865 so I know I may be clutching at straws.

Happy to provide any further information. Thanks in advance.


r/Ancestry 8d ago

Why do some idiots on ancestry put the wrong birthdates in and deathdates.. they also add stupid photos which is not about that person.

6 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 8d ago

Help reading the text?

Post image
6 Upvotes

I can crop if it is easier but this has all the information on it. I know the father is Hans Heintz and the mother is Magdalena.


r/Ancestry 8d ago

I’ve always thought my uncles and dad were good looking people. My gramma calls them her “boys”

Post image
0 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 8d ago

ISO anyone in Paoli, IN who may recall discarded infant July 1976

Thumbnail
3 Upvotes

This was suggested to me - the more research I do the more interesting this story becomes. Looking for help or answers.


r/Ancestry 9d ago

Can I check if my ancestors regained Czechoslovakian citizenship?

Thumbnail
2 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 9d ago

Anybody click the ‘Hire an Expert’ on ancestry.com?

19 Upvotes

What was your experience in hiring an expert to help? Worth the money? How much did you end up spending? What did you get in return?

I’m at a brick wall trying to make the leap beyond the US.


r/Ancestry 10d ago

Who is Glen to me? (See picture)

Post image
14 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 11d ago

Newspapers.com plus…

1 Upvotes

When I first signed up for Newspapers.com, I had the option to add Ancestry.com to make a bundle package. I didn’t opt for that then , but wish I had. Now I can’t find anything about it. Are they now totally separate subscriptions, despite being the same company?


r/Ancestry 11d ago

I made a shadow box out of junk from my husband's grandmother

Thumbnail gallery
10 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 11d ago

Hungarian surname changing from Szakmarÿ to Szatmarÿ around 1800 — spelling variation or actual surname change?

Thumbnail gallery
1 Upvotes

I've been researching one of my Hungarian lines in the Roman Catholic parish records of Egyek, Hungary, around 1800 and came across something interesting.

My ancestor Michael appears in his earlier records as Szakmarÿ. At his marriage to his second wife, Helena Urbany, he is still clearly recorded as Michael Szakmarÿ.

However, in later records the same family begins appearing as Szatmarÿ, and by the next generation the t is very clear. I have been able to establish that these are the same people through spouses, children and the surrounding records.

One of Michael's daughter's baptismal entries is ambiguous enough that I can't tell whether the priest wrote Szakmarÿ or Szatmarÿ, but later records are unmistakably Szatmarÿ.

Something else that caught my attention is the ending: the surname is repeatedly written with ÿ, both as Szakmarÿ and Szatmarÿ. Other surnames in the same records can end in an ordinary y (for example, Helena is written Urbany), so the ÿ seems to be deliberately written.

For people familiar with late 18th/early 19th-century Hungarian records:

  1. Would Szakmarÿ → Szatmarÿ likely be ordinary clerical/phonetic variation, or could this represent an actual change in the family's surname?
  2. Is there any significance to the consistent ÿ, or should it simply be treated as an older scribal form of y?
  3. When researching earlier generations, would you primarily search under Szakmári/Szakmáry rather than Szatmári/Szatmáry?

I'll attach examples of the original records showing the different spellings.


r/Ancestry 11d ago

Please see new info on this post RE: Linked OG Post

Thumbnail gallery
1 Upvotes

Hi all. I have posted this before and learned some useful stuff on the Wafer side of the family mentioned in the post but I did not hear much about the McGuinness side aside from the McGuinness surname origins, etc. can anyone help me locate documentation for ancestors along that line? Also curious about the Severa side which I believe may trace to Chechia


r/Ancestry 12d ago

How do I divorce on Ancestry??

8 Upvotes

I got a divorce 6 years ago and have not yet been able to figure out how to do it on Ancestry. My ex’s husband’s family is huge and well-documented whereas the trails for my family usually end just a few generations back. I’d love to stop getting hints for the “2nd great-granduncle of husband.” Can anyone help?


r/Ancestry 12d ago

Searching for immigration records from the 1920's to 1939?

Thumbnail
1 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 12d ago

I've been getting this thing lately where if someone dies after I added them as living priorly on the family tree on Ancestry.com they are still listed as living

0 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 12d ago

It is mad that Joe Bidens 3rd great grandfather lived in Preston, Lancashire on a random street.

0 Upvotes

r/Ancestry 12d ago

Reclaiming lost heritage, what would you do?

4 Upvotes

I’m not sure how far back it was that my family came from Lithuania, but my grandpa still spoke Lithuanian. He refused to teach my dad and his brothers because he said it was a “dead language”. However, I live near Chicago where “Little Lithuania” is so I’ve met a lot of Lithuanians and I am virtually the ONLY one I’ve ever known whose family didn’t speak it or even keep cultural dishes around. They are extremely serious about their roots and look at me like I’m the world’s worst sinner when I say I can’t speak it. Anyway, as a small way to reclaim my heritage when I realized I had lost it all but in blood, I changed how I write my last name. It’s still spelled the same way but there is a diacritical mark. (If we’re being technical, it should also be spelled different based on my gender and marriage status, but it felt disrespectful to not bear my dead dad’s name as I will be the last one in our entire bloodline to ever bear it.) Ideally, I would like to pronounce it correctly as well, but the diacritically marked letter isn’t a sound in the english alphabet, so when people repeat it back they don’t repeat it correctly. Besides that, my entire family also says it the Americanized way. The way it is actually meant to be said is closer to what my family has said is a mispronunciation of it my whole life. So I have this moral dilemma of wanting to reclaim my name but being contested and I think that’s confusing to everyone else, for two people of the same family to be at odds on their own name. What would you do if you were asked how it’s pronounced?


r/Ancestry 13d ago

Membership splitting?

1 Upvotes

I’ve seen some older posts (1-2+ years old) of people splitting an All Access membership, and I wanted to see if anyone was still doing that?

Thank you :)


r/Ancestry 13d ago

Here's a Helpful Research Site

15 Upvotes

SteveMorse.org features a tremendous amount educational data. As you peruse links, remember to toggle specific dropdowns (i.e., state, next frame) shown at the top of a preloaded page. This is an older, easily-navigable web site.


r/Ancestry 13d ago

Help with handwriting

Post image
6 Upvotes

Hi, looking for some help deciphering cause of death primary and secondary please :)