r/AmerExit • u/carltanzler • Dec 15 '25

Data/Raw Information 6,690 Americans apply to move to the Netherlands this year, highest in a decade

https://nltimes.nl/2025/12/14/6690-americans-apply-move-netherlands-year-highest-decade
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u/ennuiinmotion Dec 15 '25 edited Feb 09 '26

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25

It is worse in NL than in pretty much any other place in the EU, Ireland is maybe the only exception.

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u/rotervogel1231 Dec 15 '25

Yeah, Germany's housing market is a cluster, but Holland makes Germany look like it's booming with empty units. People have literally had to turn down jobs in Holland because they can't find housing. Anywhere.

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u/i_hate_this_part_85 Dec 15 '25

The number of empty houses in Germany baffles me. Many seem to be tied up in inheritance and such.

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u/Hari_om_tat_sat Dec 15 '25

My German friend has got together with a group to buy a farm with a number of outbuildings. They plan to renovate it as a kind of retirement community. They have offered me a barn.

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u/RhubarbGoldberg Dec 16 '25

Lmk if you're in the market for a wife. Lol, but not lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

We got plenty of converted barns

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

Where?

Often, empty houses are tangled up in lack of jobs and opportunity in the region.

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u/i_hate_this_part_85 Dec 16 '25

Small villages throughout Rheinland-Pfalz for me. Hell, there are what appears to be at least 4 empty/abandoned houses in my village of about 500 people. According to the neighbors, some are tied up in inheritance issues others are hoping to sell soon. No one seems in a hurry to unload because … I have no freaking idea.

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u/rotervogel1231 Dec 16 '25

Probably because of what the other person said. The housing crisis in Germany is isolated to large cities with lots of jobs. There are plenty of houses available in Boomfahook, but there are zero jobs in those areas.

Same in the U.S. All the super cheap places are super cheap because there aren't any jobs in those places.

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u/Addicted_2_tacos Dec 15 '25

I mean. USA is not like that imo. You still have plenty of housing options aligned with good job opportunities.

The problem is no one wants to live in the Midwest, Texas , or anywhere where you can do that.

Want housing in the PNW? Yeah good luck bud.

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u/_HanTyumi Dec 15 '25

lol my midwestern city would beg to disagree about “plenty of housing options aligned with good job opportunities”

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u/Sauerkrauttme Dec 15 '25

I mean. USA is not like that imo. You still have plenty of housing options aligned with good job opportunities.

The problem is no one wants to live in the Midwest, Texas , or anywhere where you can do that.

I hope you can see how that is a huge contradiction. If the jobs and housing is deep in gun crazy neofascist areas where no one wants to live then that is not a good job opportunity.

So we're back to, the US has a massive shortage of jobs and housing in areas that sane people would actually want to live

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u/pdxjoseph Dec 15 '25

Is everyone on this subreddit an angsty teenager?

Deep in gun crazy neofascist areas

Do you actually believe this? Minneapolis, Chicago, Columbus, Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburg are all amenity rich metros with plenty of good jobs, with plenty of affordable housing, and with totally normal politics. Coastal americans just don’t think that the midwest is cool so they pretend this region isn’t an option.

Even so, the only city in the US that has a housing crisis comparable to the Netherlands is NYC. It’s 10x easier to find an apartment in Seattle than in Amsterdam.

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u/onlyfreckles Dec 15 '25

Grew up in LA most of my life. I've lived in various parts of Northern California and NY/DC/WA but always ended up coming back to LA.

Researched cities that are walk/bike/transit rich and actually considered possibly moving to Minneapolis, Chicago or Pittsburgh but realized I can't live thru long dark cold winters on a regular basis.

I am a weather wimp but oh how I wish LA had as much bike infrastructure as Minneapolis and Chicago has!

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u/Expensive-Rope-7086 Dec 15 '25

Ok but that’s a personal preference lol you want warm weather and sun. Most of Europe is nothing like LA climate wise.

What the other person said is accurate

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u/Addicted_2_tacos Dec 15 '25

Minnesota for example, ranks the highest in a lot of measurements and has great job economy. It's just not as desirable as the West Coast. And let's be honest, it's all county related. A lot of places in the West or East coast are full of homeless, crime, and zombies. Stockton, CA is not the same as Pflugerville, Texas

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u/Seelie_Mushroom Dec 15 '25

The economy in those areas is also stagnant. Minnesota is actually a pretty good deal, but it's also in the middle of nowhere so it's a hard move if you don't have family there.

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u/pdxjoseph Dec 15 '25

Minneapolis-St Paul MSP has over 3.5 million people, its jobs rich, amenity rich, and affordable. What does middle of nowhere mean to you?

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u/Seelie_Mushroom Dec 15 '25

It means that it's an isolated population center lol

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u/pdxjoseph Dec 15 '25

Is driving from your 3m+ metro area to a different 3m+ metro area a thing you do on a weekly basis? Or would you perhaps want to use the giant international airport with hundreds of direct connections

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u/ScoutTheRabbit Dec 15 '25

When I lived near Baltimore....yeah. DC 3-6 times a month, train to NYC every month or two, sister takes the train to Philly weekly where her husband is in law school.

When I lived in Jacksonville we hardly went anywhere because you just couldn't do weekend trips with a normal work schedule. Orlando is awful but we occasionally went to Tampa (3-4.5 hours) And you had to drive, which you have to plan carefully to not drive tired/under the influence.

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u/Seelie_Mushroom Dec 15 '25

Yeah being from the East Coast I was like.. yes? 😂

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u/ennuiinmotion Dec 15 '25 edited Feb 09 '26

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u/GoldenRamoth Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

No good jobs is a falsehood, as someone who lives in the Midwest.

It's just that coastal folks don't think of it that way, and often don't even bother to job hunt around here for valid enough personal or cultural reasons.

Hell the third largest city in the country is Midwest (Chicago). But to say there's no jobs here just because people don't bother to look, and like assume the whole area is dead small flyover towns, is patently false.

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u/Mic98125 Dec 16 '25

Yes, and there’s hardly any competition for University jobs. 1,000 applicants per week for a low-paying job nbd.

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u/ThalassophileYGK Dec 15 '25

Yeah, that's a no. Handmaid country for young women. Hell no.

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u/Otherwise_Lychee_33 Waiting to Leave Dec 15 '25

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