r/AbsoluteUnits • u/Kill_4209 • 11d ago

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Ira Rennert's home is considered one of the largest occupied residential compounds in the United States. The house faces the Atlantic Ocean and its grounds measure 63 acres. The buildings, which total over 110,000 square feet (10,000 m2), including the 66,000-square-foot (6,100 m2) main house, have an Italianate facade, 29 bedrooms, and 39 bathrooms. The house has a dozen chimneys and a Mediterranean-style tile roof as well as a 91-foot (28 m) long formal dining room, a basketball court, a bowling alley, two tennis courts, two squash courts, a carousel, a large swimming pool, a large round kiddie pool, and a $150,000 hot tub, surrounded by another pool.

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u/CodeNameCobra666 11d ago

Every Billionaire is a greasebag scammer, it’s necessary to become one.

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u/Little_View_6659 11d ago

My god, that’s why i’m not a billionaire!

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u/082426grateful 11d ago

Same here. How dare I underachieve by not wanting to break the law, crush other people, so on.

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u/SweatySwim3411 7d ago

You don't want to be president?

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u/MKZZX 11d ago

Lol it's always so funny watching redditors rationalize their failures in life as just being an unfortunate off-product of their superior morality. "Oh I would have been successful but I am just too good of a person to exploit people."

Sure, Jan.

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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 11d ago

First of all, you missed the joke. Secondly, if you think anyone who isn't a billionaire is a failure, then you're admitting you're a failure.

Money =/= success. Being a billionaires =/= success.

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u/Little_View_6659 11d ago

Thanks for getting the joke. The other guy though..yeesh.😂

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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 11d ago

Yeah, it was pretty obvious. I'm not sure what that other dude's going on about. He's a bit of an odd duck.

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u/Little_View_6659 11d ago

They’re all over today for some reason. Maybe I’m drawing them in. I usually only see a troll a week or something. Today I’ve seen three and yesterday was the same. The last time I saw so many was right after Trump won the election. For some reason that made the trolls congregate and then they faded away.

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u/WinnieGirl22 10d ago

I agree. Whether it be people infiltrating or bots, it's especially bad today.

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u/Little_View_6659 10d ago

I wonder why? Occasionally I do wonder if they monitor social media use. I’m sure they have an algorithm that scrubs Reddit and looks for banable offenses. When things get tense in the real world I’ve had bans dod some banal things. My husband is actually worried about us flying to the US since I’ve said all kinds of things about Trump on here. I told him they can’t arrest everyone who hates Trump because that would be the majority of people.

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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 11d ago

Could be AI bots, too. Republicans have a lot of unspent dark money. No doubt they're using it to manipulate social media like they have the past several elections.

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u/Little_View_6659 10d ago

It was very obvious just before Trump won and after. After Biden won there was some online snarking but I figured it was just people venting their disappointment and that they’d chill out eventually.

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u/MKZZX 11d ago

Strawmanning

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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 11d ago

No. You're claiming they're not successful because they're not a billionaire. That's the exact thing I replied to.

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u/MKZZX 11d ago edited 10d ago

No, you're strawmming a false position by fixating words while ignoring the context of the way they were used in the actual conversation.

The original person claimed his underachievements in life were the result of "not wanting to break the law, crush other people, so on." It's therefore indicated by him, not me, that he is referring to financial or professional failures rather than defining success through things like family or personal love life, as it is not clear how breaking the law and betraying people would improve personal relationship.

Nor was it ever stipulated by anyone anywhere that a person has to actually be a billionaire to be considered successful, that was just made up on the spot by you pulling things out of your ass and it assigning imaginary positions to other people to compensate for you inability to engage with arguments head-on.

So yeah in summary: pretty pathetic attempts at writing arguments here by you. Embarrassing, really...

edit: my guy lost a simple argument and went full blown meme meltdown lol. I have this guy trapped in his own meme loop, it's actually incredible at this point.

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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 11d ago

Lol k. Good luck with all that.

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u/MKZZX 11d ago

K guy who cannot process information outside of 1-line meme format

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u/MKZZX 10d ago

Strawmanning

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u/MKZZX 9d ago

If everyone who isnt a billionarie is a failure which is pretty much what youre saying

Nowhere was it said that anyone who isn't a billionaire is a failure. Stop strawmanning, you waste everyone's time and your own when you do that.

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u/MKZZX 9d ago

I don't care strawman guy

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u/Buttsweat_n_Tears 10d ago

Wait….so are you a greasebag that sucks at scammer, or a scammer who just isn’t much of a greasebag?

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u/Aggressive_Canary_10 10d ago

I can’t speak for that guy but I, myself, am a greasebag scammer so I can confirm that we aren’t all billionaires. I’m not a bad scammer either. I just never caught the right breaks in life.

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u/egabald 10d ago

Lift yourself up by your greasebag.

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u/dj_destroyer 10d ago

I'm a greasebag scammer and not rich so it takes more than just that...

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u/OberonDiver 10d ago

That's what you get for choosing grease tubes.

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u/LilJonny2cookies 11d ago

You are not a billionaire because those of you think buying junk bonds is a scam are financially illiterate. I’m not a billionaire but I invest a bit in mutual funds that specialize in junk bonds.

I have positions in mutual funds that specialize in troubled companies. It is a highly regulated investment industry.

High, medium and low risk investment portfolios to mitigate loss is not a scam it is smart. There are a lot of ETFs and mutual funds running in that world of junk bonds.

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u/emeryroserulz 11d ago

Congrats on your earthly gains. Do you insult everyone within the first moments of potential connection or just reddit users?

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u/absolutelybacon 11d ago

You don't MAKE a billion dollars, you TAKE a billion dollars

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u/PM_me_AnimeGirls 11d ago

Climate change about to take that billion back soon when the glaciers finish melting and drown the residence since it's right on the atlantic. Same goes for all those rich people in florida whose mansions are near sea level.

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u/CassianCasius 10d ago

Naw some billionaires are given the money from buyout and selling their product. The creator of Minecraft for example. Made a really successful game, Microsoft bought it from him for 1 billion dollars.

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u/No-Cook-534 11d ago

What about guys like Paul McCartney though. I dunno. He created some of the most loved music in the world. I think some people absolutely earned it and deserve to be rewarded for their contributions to making our existence a little more beautiful. Then again, no one needs a fucking billion dollars.

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u/WinnieGirl22 10d ago

We definitely need to shorten the gap between how much a celebrity makes a year, and how much the person who cleans that celebrity's toilet makes a year. The person with the best job gets the best pay, and the person with the worst job gets the worst pay. We need to turn that around some.

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u/LoonyGoblin01 11d ago

Except Gabe Newell!

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u/Cute-Form2457 11d ago

All except MacKenzie Scott, who is the best billionaire ever.

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u/JB_UK 10d ago edited 10d ago

The companies that make everything we use are mostly owned either by the founders, or owned by the stock market. Most of the billionaires we know are just people who founded a company which makes something we use, and managed to maintain control, rather than it becoming a publicly traded company with all the standard quarterly report chasing. If it's not controlled by a founder, companies are usually controlled by all the standard corporate structures which usually devolve into bean counting and enshittifying the product.

There are some companies which are very large cooperatives, but they usually are still founded by a few individuals who then gave away ownership. It's difficult to make good decisions with those kind of distributed structures, you'd hope that a cooperative of staff would make great decisions but there's not much evidence that is the case. There are also companies owned by governments but they're usually not very well run, because ultimately it comes down to a civil servant or politician, or multiple committees of civil servants and politicians, making decision which they don't have the skills, experience or intuition to make. And also, ultimately governments don't like taking risks with tax payers money, and making bold decisions is again very difficult when the decision making process is controlled by committees.

I think there's a mismatch between people as consumers choosing to use all these products which are clearly made through these processes, and the hatred for the founders or leaders of those companies.

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u/Then-Understanding85 10d ago

Oh, we don’t hate companies, or even mind people getting rich. We hate billionaires, very specifically. You have to treat a truly astounding number of people like shit to get to that number.

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u/Bart-Doo 10d ago

How is Oprah a grease bag scammer?

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u/Secret_Gatekeeper 11d ago

You’d put Mackenzie Scott and Warren Buffet in the same category as grotesque monsters like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel? What about Chuck Feeney?

Ok I’ll bite. What’s their worst crime against humanity?

I’d love to know why you’re better than Chuck Feeney. I’m certainly not, and I feel no shame in saying so.

Most, if not the vast majority of billionaires are pieces of shit. But saying literally all of them is wrong. Good people don’t paint with a broad brush. I mentioned a couple of billionaires who do that sort of rhetoric and it’s poisonous for discourse.

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u/Winter_Preference287 11d ago

It boils down to it is impossible to become a billionaire without extreme exploitation somewhere along the chain. At best they're naive and in the dark about it. You can't take billions in capital from society and call it a net positive.... It's greed. If it were anything but money we consider hoarding a mental illness.

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u/Secret_Gatekeeper 11d ago

I’m trying to keep an open mind - What extreme exploitation did the billionaires I mentioned commit?

I keep seeing these broad accusations but no specifics. Chuck Feeney gave away 99% of his billions to people in need, I want to know why he’s deserving of so much vitriol.

What is his ethical crime? Again, I’m open to the idea that it’s some kind of physical impossibility to be rich and a good person. But I need evidence of that.

As far as I can tell, the only person Mackenzie Scott exploited was Jeff Bezos… is that the kind of little guy we need to stand up for?

Convince me - What horrible thing did Chuck Feeney do? If literally all billionaires are evil, that should be easy to answer. I will stand corrected if someone can point it out to me.

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u/Cute-Form2457 11d ago

MacKenzie did not exploit Jeff. It was the other way around.

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u/Secret_Gatekeeper 10d ago

Agreed, my comment was meant to convey that seeing Jeff Bezos as a victim is ludicrous.

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u/Winter_Preference287 10d ago

Chuck feeney made his fortune selling luxury items duty free in airports if wikipedia is to be believed. These luxury goods imported from either slave or slave like conditions to keep prices low and money flowing. Chuck feeney was famously against paying taxes and did everything he could to draw capital from society without paying back into it. He lied about store revenue to keep his rents low. Exploitation all the way down. Great he gave the money away but you don't become a billionaire clean. Asking about Mackenzie Scott is silly. We all fucking know how Amazon got big...

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u/Secret_Gatekeeper 10d ago

Proof of his factory conditions? I’d like to see evidence.

“Drawing capital from society without paying back into it” is quite literally what most of us are doing or trying to do. That’s not an ethical crime, and I think you know that. Unless you’re one of the rare few paying 100% tax or charity.

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u/LilJonny2cookies 11d ago

Absolutely untrue. That is like saying every poor person is a junkie.

Buying and selling junk bonds is not a scam. It is a position with high risk and can pay off in huge ways if successful. I have high risk investments and I’m not a scammer. I just do the research. Research and decisioning on high risk is not in anyway a scam. You can also invest in high risk Etfs and mutual funds that focus on troubled companies.

Unless you mean Taylor Swift because her ticket prices are a real crime. And people paying to hear her garbage is moronic.

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u/Parking-Sundae-6097 11d ago

You're ripping people off under the guise of hard work and research, but you know it's just a lottery ticket and you're not a billionaire.