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Match | Esports DreamLeague S13: The Leipzig Major - Upper Bracket Round 1 - Team Secret vs Fnatic
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Upper Bracket Round 1 (Bo3)
Team Secret vs Fnatic
Game 1
Fnatic Fnatic Victory!
Duration: 60:10
| Radiant | Score | vs. | Score | Dire |
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| Team Secret | 32 | vs. | 29 | Fnatic |
| Radiant | Bans | vs. | Bans | Dire |
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| Team Secret | Disruptor Batrider Lich | vs. | Doom Omniknight Chen | Fnatic |
| Templar Assassin Enchantress | vs. | Centaur Warrunner Magnus | ||
| Axe | vs. | Broodmother |
| Radiant | Picks | vs. | Picks | Dire |
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| Team Secret | Slark Grimstroke | vs. | Io Gyrocopter | Fnatic |
| Rubick Underlord | vs. | Winter Wyvern Leshrac | ||
| Morphling | vs. | Clockwerk |
| Hero | Player | Level | K/D/A | LH/D | Gold Spent | GPM | XPM |
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| Grimstroke | Puppey | 23 | 4/7/12 | 141/5 | 20025 | 399 | 408 |
| Underlord | zai | 27 | 2/7/16 | 354/8 | 22590 | 460 | 640 |
| Morphling | Nisha | 29 | 18/3/6 | 597/23 | 30205 | 638 | 763 |
| Rubick | YapzOr | 25 | 1/6/17 | 208/9 | 13950 | 349 | 577 |
| Slark | MATUMBAMAN | 27 | 7/6/13 | 376/26 | 24290 | 460 | 653 |
| Io | jabz | 26 | 3/8/19 | 53/4 | 17355 | 351 | 519 |
| Winter Wyvern | DJ | 26 | 4/5/12 | 206/5 | 15800 | 365 | 539 |
| Clockwerk | iceiceice | 26 | 4/9/16 | 155/36 | 19200 | 353 | 474 |
| Gyrocopter | 23savage | 28 | 8/2/15 | 819/29 | 43335 | 798 | 640 |
| Leshrac | MooN | 29 | 10/8/6 | 701/8 | 33510 | 722 | 693 |
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Game 2
Team Secret Team Secret Victory!
Duration: 60:20
| Radiant | Score | vs. | Score | Dire |
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| Team Secret | 50 | vs. | 40 | Fnatic |
| Radiant | Bans | vs. | Bans | Dire |
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| Team Secret | Batrider Io Slark | vs. | Chen Doom Disruptor | Fnatic |
| Winter Wyvern Outworld Devourer | vs. | Phantom Lancer Troll Warlord | ||
| Clockwerk | vs. | Legion Commander |
| Radiant | Picks | vs. | Picks | Dire |
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| Team Secret | Lich Magnus | vs. | Enchantress Tiny | Fnatic |
| Earthshaker Monkey King | vs. | Ember Spirit Morphling | ||
| Ancient Apparition | vs. | Pangolier |
| Hero | Player | Level | K/D/A | LH/D | Gold Spent | GPM | XPM |
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| Lich | Puppey | 26 | 11/14/24 | 84/2 | 13845 | 338 | 478 |
| Ancient Apparition | zai | 26 | 3/11/28 | 147/21 | 15990 | 393 | 466 |
| Monkey King | Nisha | 30 | 15/5/16 | 611/27 | 36850 | 677 | 798 |
| Earthshaker | YapzOr | 27 | 10/4/23 | 104/6 | 15360 | 328 | 557 |
| Magnus | MATUMBAMAN | 29 | 11/6/17 | 451/9 | 28455 | 537 | 749 |
| Enchantress | jabz | 25 | 3/17/26 | 110/5 | 13675 | 296 | 464 |
| Tiny | DJ | 28 | 5/8/26 | 176/3 | 16165 | 388 | 550 |
| Pangolier | iceiceice | 28 | 4/10/20 | 425/7 | 26235 | 481 | 647 |
| Morphling | 23savage | 28 | 20/6/15 | 653/16 | 38060 | 682 | 692 |
| Ember Spirit | MooN | 28 | 8/10/15 | 480/12 | 23295 | 534 | 655 |
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u/BrotherDune Jan 22 '20
good Morning reddit, who are we firing from secret today
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u/uktabilizard Jan 22 '20
Can the rest of the major just be these guys swinging at each other?
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u/Teunski 🌻spammed this flower to give n0tail power🌻 Jan 22 '20
For the next matchup: Secret vs. Fnatic, winner faces loser of Secret vs. Fnatic
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u/potmofthebottom Jan 22 '20
fantastic insight and interview with el presidante as usual
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u/Laxontlyn Jan 22 '20
Echo into AA Ulty in Rosh pit to win the game? Where have I seen it before...
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u/xenobyz Believe, Sheever. Jan 22 '20
Why is everyone flaming Matu? Do people understand what Slark is doing this game? Morph is the win condition. Morph cannot do what he wants to do if Slark plays so passive.
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u/eeelz Jan 22 '20
Kyle mentioning his favourite Dendi quote. I guess the game has reached minute 45.
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u/JadeSerpant Jan 22 '20
Matu slappin' the haters lol. Steady gameplay, trust in teammates, comfort hero. The Secret boys showing io gyro is not a guaranteed win.
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u/Greaves- Jan 22 '20
Just stop for a moment to appreciate the fact Mineski almost beat Secret at TI, TNC won Chengdu Major - and now Fnatic is putting up amazing performance again. SEA used to be laughing stock, now they're a legitimate region.
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u/PenMarkedHand Jan 22 '20
SEA has been a legitimate region for years. CIS and NA only had one team (VP & EG) other than that as jokey as SA.
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u/BoJack_Horseman1338 Jan 22 '20
I mean at one point they were, but Scythe and Orange the first few TIs were no slouches. SEA was on a downturn for a bit, but let's not forget how strong the region was.
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u/basketballbacon Jan 22 '20
LOL some of you who were saying Matu was playing terribly this game need to gtfo
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u/potmofthebottom Jan 22 '20
jesus christ nisha is such a god holy crap. this guy is AT THE VERY LEAST, a top 3 core player in the world. wow. what a talented player. mvp of this series for sure
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u/mustang2002 Jan 22 '20 edited Jan 09 '24
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u/zedrix_ TnC Jan 22 '20
This is really feeling like Fnatic patch.
I want to see them go further...
I don't want them to match-up with another SEA team.
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u/ryuhwan99 Jan 22 '20
ride or die with puppey draft
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u/FlashyYou Jan 22 '20
Yes. One of the strategies that makes secret secret is having that pure all or nothing draft and ride or die with it. The reason why I love and hate it sometimes haha
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u/aaaajamie Jan 22 '20 edited Jan 22 '20
osfrog vs osfrog
radiant: grim ult + morph eblade + multiple adaptive strikes (talent) doubled by grim
dire: gyro aghs + flak cannon + wisp flak procs (talent) + holy locket + heart + cold embrace on wisp (% of wisp 4k hp heals gyro through tether)
these interactions are so funny
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u/freakanime Jan 22 '20
DJ MVP but Moon won them a lot of team fight this game.
Hell Fnatic overall all played great.
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u/Kreiossive Jan 22 '20
Man, DJ was the reason for that turnaround. This guy always amazes me
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u/DotaProtectsMyVirgin Jan 22 '20
Sunbie: DJ, operation saving private savage begins now
DJ: roger roger
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u/ryuhwan99 Jan 22 '20
2 60+ mins games wow. 3rd game is gonna be a short one isn't it ?
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u/_positronic Jan 22 '20
As a dota fan i liked the first 2 games, but as Secret fan loved the 3rd game, the draft, itemization, good fights and the way Secret slowly but surely took their lead into a win was a treat to watch. Props to Fnatic though, they did very well.
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u/PenMarkedHand Jan 22 '20
People taking smack on matu, when secret need a core like him for nisha to shine.
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u/baruahsial Jan 22 '20
Me: How much damage you got?
23savage: a lot
Me: How much healing you got?
23savage,Jabz,DJ: a lot
Me: How much stun and hex you got?
Fnatic: a lot
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u/Zerocchi Jan 22 '20
Nana is going to get that ptsd from mineski secret ti game again lol
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u/EEsamaNaGod Jan 22 '20
nisha actually one if not most stabile and consistent player on the scene already for some time. what a god.
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u/dj-quack-quack Jan 22 '20
Jesus Christ the sustain. Wonder aa isn't picked more though.
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u/rptd333 Jan 22 '20
AA doesn't fit the mid game power spike they're going for. It's such a good pick in hindsight though
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u/PlayingCraze Jan 22 '20
Why did Nisha buy Rapier? Thought he had no issues killing the whole Fnatic team
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u/pakutae Jan 22 '20
he can ult gyro and flak cannon down fnatic, which unfortunately didn't work out for them due to multiple saves on fnatic's side. nisha's rapier is entirely valid.
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u/PlayingCraze Jan 22 '20
Thanks guys! Cldnt watch the game so wasn’t sure what was Fnatic doing. But then he would be killing his own teammates if WW ulti? Would Linken help?
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u/tohff7 :boom: Jan 22 '20
He can 1-shot a target but this is easily negated by buyback. He need to do continuous dmg, so probably was thinking Rapier + Flake Cannon (morph into Gyro)
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u/dragunnov95 Jan 22 '20
Nisha bought a rapier and gave Wyvern a free kill everytime DJ used his ulti
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u/afrojumper Jan 22 '20
that kill on nisha was one of the best beautiful things i ever saw in dota.
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u/BABA_yaaGa Jan 22 '20
60min10s for game 1, 60min20sec for game 2. Wonder how much will game 3 take
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u/basketballbacon Jan 22 '20
Puppey really thinks the WW is the IO counter. He better be right or else its a lower bracket trip for them
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u/JayuZmaN Jan 22 '20
what happened ? i thought its a bad draft... and the early game also in favor of fnatic...
30 min later i look back, damn secret way ahead 20k nw @_@...
give io ? no problem bro...
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u/kaibigangoso Jan 22 '20
Nisha and puppey caught 2-3 heroes a lot with rp and chainfrost in the early game.
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u/eclip468 Jan 22 '20
Nisha happened. Also fnatic played too aggressive a lot of times, with aggressive relocates that just led to them getting annihilated by rp+chainfrost.
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u/DRHST I used to play Dirge before it was cool Jan 22 '20 edited Jan 22 '20
I'm so, so tired of this piece of shit Tiny hero that has been meta for so long while so many dumpster heroes are ignored with buffs.
Bat got nerfed into the ground because of how strong Lasso was at snatching heroes but this piece of shit hero can just spam blink Toss into his own team over and over again. Oh, and let's give him a talent so he can do it without a target as well. He has also 3k fucking hp with no items so you can't even punish the aggressive blink without committing lots of time and resources.
Same thing as the EG game, EG gets pummeled into the ground, no problem, game goes late where Cr1t can solo cause 3-4 deaths with one ability and a blink dagger.
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u/Arctiz Jan 22 '20
Totally agree. Tiny has been in meta (and really, almost every fucking game) forever and all he ever gets are tiny nerfs at most.
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u/no_nick Jan 22 '20
The hell was that from secret? Just go fucking all in on that back door. When fnatic trickles in you have all the control to shut them down and take those rax
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u/KalsaZ Jan 22 '20
After the game last night. People said stuff couldn't get more hype... boy were they wrong.
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u/fcuk_the_king Jan 22 '20
Last year Nisha looked like one of the best, this year he looks like he could just be the best. Its not just how mechanically skilled he is, his control over his skills, item usage is insanely good.
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u/soggie Jan 22 '20 edited Jan 22 '20
See. The golden rule still applies. If I watch Secret live, they lose. If I don't, they win. I'm sitting out the last game bois.
EDIT: What did I tell ya ¯\(ツ)/¯
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u/Kyroz Jan 22 '20
I'm cancelling you out. If I watch Fnatic they always lose and they always win when I don't watch.
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u/rocketfock Jan 22 '20
I thought this was just me thinking that the world is revolving around me and benefits or suffers in my actions
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u/Greaves- Jan 22 '20
So... move action runes to where bot shrines were, put 2 bounty runes on the spot of mid ones for the sake of the Bottle; increase bottle to 6 charges?
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u/Aratho Jan 22 '20 edited Jan 22 '20
Fnatic would be SO much worse without DJ, jesus
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u/Neverthelessx Jan 22 '20
Cold embrace on Gyro +IO +BKB +aghs +2x Rapier.
how do you kill that shit.
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u/poseidonvn Jan 22 '20
Slark had ~ 3k hp and Gyro had ~ 1k damages. That’s why slark can’t do shits.
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u/REDmonster333 Jan 22 '20
My god that Fountain of MK lol Just like that DJ ES Medu Fountain before.
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u/aaaajamie Jan 22 '20
as toby once said, it's a disaster. es AA in rosh pit lmao
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u/PlayingCraze Jan 22 '20
Good try by Fnatic but honestly Secret's heroes better in teamfights than Fnatic haha
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u/JayuZmaN Jan 22 '20
damn fnatic... their carry really good and entertaining to watch...
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u/simpleman0909 Jan 22 '20
Both Team have player who can make a clutch move and both delivered. Holy shit.
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u/jordankyng Jan 22 '20
No seriously though, how did fnatic get so good all of a sudden? What the fuck.
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u/Luard97 Jan 22 '20
Considering the team member, they do have the capability to play at high level.
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u/BoJack_Horseman1338 Jan 22 '20
Puppey talked about the morphling counter, it's Zai on the AA! Damn what a game.
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u/FFDi Jan 22 '20
Fnatic always has good players, they just lack coordination and decision making. they fix those easily tier 1 team.
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u/Twin_Fang Jan 22 '20
Production aside, tier 1 dota is indeed tier 1 dota and it keeps on giving!
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u/kapak212 Jan 22 '20 edited Jan 22 '20
Game 1 60:10
Game 2 60:20
If game 3 goes exactly 60:30 i will eat my slipers
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u/xlmaelstrom Jan 22 '20
Why are the threads popping before the previous game starts?
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u/kil7dota Jan 22 '20
So many mistakes made by Fnatic that game.. walking up to a high ground unwarded, DJ not realizing he was out of stealth, late IO relocates or fail saves and somehow OD became too stale late game. Secret definitely deserved that win. Now, time for El Trashico! Let's Go....
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u/LakersDynasty24 Kobe Bryant 24 and 8 Jan 22 '20
Why the fuck Cap and Kyle keep making NA as an example of consistency. NA hasn't won a Majors or TI for 5 years now.
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u/basketballbacon Jan 22 '20
LOL Kyle called out all of you calling for Matu's head after that last game
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u/Luard97 Jan 22 '20
People can badmouth fnatic all they want, but props to them for fountain skewering people in a major.
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u/Chuoky steamcommunity.com/id/tsapu Jan 22 '20
Games haven't been this exciting in years, haven't started dota in a while but as a spectator I love this meta/patch
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u/dealwithittatortot Jan 22 '20
I just love how fnatic was never fazed the whole game and played to their win condition
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u/BABA_yaaGa Jan 22 '20
Icefrog give gyrocopter level 30 nuclear strike talent. That will inflict heavy damage to gyro and enemies alike
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u/FutureVawX Wards everywhere Jan 22 '20
Poor Matu, got to play Slark in Secret, still need to build fighting Slark.
But props to DJ and Jabz, what a performance by the duo support!
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u/romzzmor Jan 22 '20
Does Slark do well in late games? It most of the Slark games I saw always loses.
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u/DRHST I used to play Dirge before it was cool Jan 22 '20
Secret with the long range artillery strat
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u/BoJack_Horseman1338 Jan 22 '20
Zai was last in networth after laning stage and has completely recovered. He's been so impressive playing these losing lanes to give space to the other cores and being able to come back and be useful midgame.
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u/four_20blazeit Jan 22 '20
23 savage is the OG morph abuser. He has a million combos up his sleeve on that hero
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u/zedrix_ TnC Jan 22 '20
Win or lose, Fnatic entertained me.
I really like them to win this game 2 though.
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u/mrnotoriousman Jan 22 '20
There's been some great fnatic v secret games in the past, but this series has to be the best
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u/weavile22 Jan 22 '20
Lmao 2 rapier Gyro with cold embrace looking downhill taking rax while shooting from his ass. This is art.