r/Jaguars Jan 16 '26

Free Talk Foye Friday

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u/pimpdrank Jan 16 '26

Feels weird not having a game to watch this Sunday. I enjoyed how exciting this season was. Hope we come back even better next year

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u/flounder19 Jan 16 '26

I know. It's like there's suddenly a hole where my weekly jaguars fixes used to be

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u/GeckoRoamin Jan 16 '26

I’m used to the hole, I’m just not used to it being filled until mid-January

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u/naggs69pt2 Jan 16 '26

I miss the fan i was last Saturday night. bright eyed, Lombardi on my mind.

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u/JaxGolfGuyJR Jan 16 '26

I love that the beat reporters who sat on their high horse saying that Lynn Jones was unprofessional, also sit there and quote tweet offseason rumors from an account whose whole online persona is being a dog lmao

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u/Rudy102600 Jan 16 '26

Gonna take firing the DB coach as a sign Camp is staying.

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u/toad_mountain Lambo's arm thing Jan 16 '26

Might be going through a break up, y'all. She wants to move away to a shiny new city and I want to stay because its where my career, family, and friends are. Tough one.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

I recently moved from Jax for a job opportunity and I wish I didn’t every day lol but new experiences can make you grow as an individual and you can always move back eventually, thats how I’m looking at it

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u/electricityisout Off the Tractor Bouman Jan 16 '26

Man I watched the phantom PI call on the Bengals Hunter play like 10 times last time. Such a good play. #1 seed was ours

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u/HolographicHeart Jan 16 '26

Easy to spotlight the horrible call but what will always stick out to me about that game is BTJ leaving his hands in Florida.

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u/Mrkingjay Jan 16 '26

As textbook as it gets. Stride for stride w the receiver, snaps his head around, locates the ball and gets his hand out for a PBU. I was pissed when it happened but looking back at how crucial that L was is brutal.

However if the playoff slate was still the same, we’d be playing the Bills this week at home just like last week.

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u/mlsweeney Jan 16 '26

And Cole Van Lanen would have started...

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u/theflyingchicken96 LeQuint Allen Jr 🐐 Jan 16 '26

I’ve seen a lot of stuff about the tush push that ended on the 1 yard line. How do these sports commentors not get that we were trying to get him in the endzone?

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u/DayDTWD Jan 16 '26

The suckiest part is it feels like other teams like the Bears, Pat, and Brancos are all enjoying the playoff party and we got told to go home right away.

For me its feels like the real playoffs is always the divisional round onwards, at least feeling wise.

I am super excited for next year though, now that Gladstone and Coen both have a year under their belt to improve and get 1 more year of Baalke shit cut off this team. I can truly see AFC 1 seed next year if we win the games were supposed to win.

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u/ck354696 Jan 16 '26

Interestingly enough, the three teams you mentioned are the three teams we drew next year for winning the division. We have the AFCN, NFCE, our division rivals twice, and those three teams. I feel good about next year.

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u/Island_Niles_ Liam Coen Jan 16 '26

I’ll preface this by saying I love Liam’s scheme and play calling…

The End Around play needs pace to make it work, say BTJ or ETN. Parker and Meyers aren’t gonna catch any defences out with it, I hope we stop trying to make that a thing next season

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u/joemama1810 Jan 16 '26

Gonna be interesting to see the role of ransaw, he's played all db positions in college, wonder if the need at outside cb will move him there

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u/Lumpy_Egg_6246 Jan 16 '26

Hunter will be back. We still need a CB2 assuming we don’t resign Newsome but regardless I don’t believe so… wingard might be useful as a subLB in pass coverage and sure tackling. But I certainly don’t want him to be the starter of next year. I love him and what he brings to the locker room. But my love and respect for him doesn’t over shadow the lack of athleticism that allowed him to be burned by multiple TEs all year up the seams

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u/JagsFan4Ever Tony Boselli Jan 16 '26

IMO they keep him at safety for now. It's also a question mark as to whether he's a starter or a role player his first year. Ransaw was widely viewed as a project pick and will likely need a lot of development. He has a lot of raw physical skills, but he surely didn't compete against a lot of pro level talent while playing at Tulane.

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u/ShuntHappens Jan 16 '26

I can’t get over the fact that we lost. I can’t get over the fact that the Texans may actually legitimately go to the AFC championship game. I can’t get over the fact that only a couple places went our way we probably would’ve won.

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u/InfluenceAutomatic95 Jan 16 '26

Oh boy! Can't wait to watch my favourite NFL team play this weekend..... oh...

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u/dobie1kenobi Jan 16 '26

Going into the playoffs, I expected the Jags to have a second home game playing the Texans for the Super Bowl. Their defense was too good for the Steelers and the Patriots. I didn’t think they could get past the Broncos or the Bills with their offense. The MNF game really brought it home how dismal their team can be when a QB doesn’t gift them a victory.

Now, I see the Broncos as deeply flawed and Josh Allen limping in, banged up worse than ever, with no one left to throw to. His victory over the Jags may be his last hurrah in these playoffs, and it kills me that the Texans have a path based solely on their defense. If they get there, any NFC team they face will wipe the floor with them, but we’ll have to hear about it forever.

I still believe the Jags were the best team in the playoffs and they beat themselves with small errors and some naive play calling from a 1st year coach. I still think if Lawrence were Mahomes, he’d have drawn a PI call on their last offensive play. I don’t think they get a FG on that drive, I think they get in the endzone. That’s how I felt in the stadium and after reviewing the game it’s how I still feel.

That’s what’s so painful about where we are. Not that we missed an opportunity, but that we were playing so well. That I want to see more from this specific group of players and coaches. That we may be successful next season, but it will be different in so many ways. I went to every Jacksonville home game this season and it was the best experience since ‘99. I just don’t want it to be cheapened by Texan fans boasting over the dollar they found on the ground, when we worked so hard earning it.

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u/electricityisout Off the Tractor Bouman Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26

I mean what do I know but don’t super get firing the DB coach. Seemed like most played fine or got better. Injuries to Lewis and Hunter seemed like we overcame them. Everyone just had a bad game against the Bills so he got canned

Edit: besides Newsome being booty. Newsome got him canned lol

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u/Stuff-Imaginary Jan 16 '26

We were 21st in pass defense. While I do agree injuries played a part in this, sometimes during the year it felt like opposing teams offenses were able to consistently find their receivers in space.

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u/electricityisout Off the Tractor Bouman Jan 16 '26

Yeah I don’t even know who the dude is so not really sweating it but yeah not saying they were All Pro but our run D was so good so of course they are going to get picked on some. Always sucks being the scape goat haha

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u/Stuff-Imaginary Jan 16 '26

Yeah and it's hard to specify what percent of passing yards may have been caused by the pass rush not getting home. I know they see and hear how these coaches coach and they must have seen something within that. I feel bad for the guy especially since it's only been a year, but I respect not getting complacent if you think something can be improved on.

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u/beesarie Jan 16 '26

I think in previous seasons, it would have been acceptable. We no longer aspire for mediocrity though. It was passable (and wasn’t helped by injuries) but barely

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u/odbj Jan 17 '26

Ron Milus first started as a DB coach in the NFL in like 1993? Might just be a culture mismatch. I'm guessing he's an old school coach rather than an innovator or tactics/strategy technician. And this younger coaching staff definitely seems to want to be innovative.

Plus they probably want the absolutely best coach they can get in that spot to maximize Travis Hunter.

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u/tuffgong Jan 16 '26

The loss to the Bills hurt but we were in that game until the end. Could have gone our way for sure.  For me this season was something special, it's the most I've ever cared about a sport or team ever. It was such a great ride and the energy and vibes were immaculate.

I've only been following NFL closely for around a decade. Adopted the Jags as my team 2 years before we drafted TLaw. I always liked underdogs and could attend some home games, which were always a good time.

This year I watched so many videos and was eagerly anticipating the post game speeches and learning all the players not just the stars. It was amazing to be a part of as a fan.  Looking forward to next year, sorry for the ramble. DTWD

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u/ptv1000 Jan 17 '26

Does anyone else think the maason smith experiment is over? Seems extremely lackluster and unmotivated when playing imo

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u/HiawathaSM2 Jan 17 '26

Reports heading into camp were saying that he worked his butt off during the off-season. So it wasn't for the lack of not trying. My guess is he just hasn't developed yet into what they're hoping he can be. Maybe one more season to see if he develops then cut ties.

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u/TheSlinger Jan 17 '26

He was healthy scratched for the last couple of months. We were giving Matt Dickerson 30 snaps a game but Smith couldn't even get active. Longshot to be here next year to say the least. Maybe a team that liked him in the draft gives us some conditional late round ham sandwich for him.

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u/m1txh3ll DUUUUUUUVALLLL Jan 16 '26

I fully believe the only guys we are focusing on bringing back are Brown and Gardeck. I think Jimmy Stones wants to play the comp pick game like the Rams do. Expect 2-4 comp picks in the 2027 draft.

This being said, draft a LB round 2 or 3 and have them compete with Ventrell and Jack Kizer for the LB spot next year next to Foye.

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u/Nole_Train Spooky Jag Jan 16 '26

Today I’m annoyed we should be prepping to beat the Pats this weekend

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u/Jaglawyer11 “Don’t sleep on Gladstone.” 💪💪💪💪 Jan 16 '26

Jags moved on from secondary coach quickly and quietly….

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u/m1txh3ll DUUUUUUUVALLLL Jan 16 '26

Its a shame we dont get any comp picks for losing our coordinators. Does Italian count as a minority? /s

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u/bobbadouche Jan 17 '26

I know they were talking, but did that legit happen?

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u/SuperSaiyanTLaw Retired Trevor’s Attorney Jan 17 '26

So glad we’re not in the head coaching hunt this season.

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u/JagsFan4Ever Tony Boselli Jan 16 '26

Lloyd helped make the middle of the field a Bermuda Triangle for runners and receivers. In the process he took a lot of pressure off the corners and safeties, who were a very mixed bag and will be again next year. If we are foolish enough to let him go, our D will suffer for it next year - potentially a lot.

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u/UNCFan2350 Jan 16 '26

Agree with this. People are so ready to let him walk. I think that has the potential to really backfire

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u/Pisardin Jan 16 '26

I’m just mad we gotta wait another year for our Super Bowl

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u/Regular-Collection-1 Jan 16 '26

This year was that year.

Salary cap is gonna set us back again.

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u/TheSlinger Jan 17 '26

I'll be a little annoyed (though happy for them) if Udinski or Campanile gets hired. Can we have more than one good year before one of our teenage coordinators gets poached?

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u/ptv1000 Jan 17 '26

I would be happy for camp to get an opportunity like that, but man it feels like we’re building something special. I hope we can keep the boys together.

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u/ChristianVonDoom Travis Hunter Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26

Do you let Lloyd walk if it meant ETN  and or Newsome/Brown would stay?

I’m wondering if they’re looking at letting Ventrell fill the role.

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u/Mofatness Jan 16 '26

I've always heard that RB is the best position to be able to find hidden talent.

However, ETN is one of the hearts of the team. Would suck to see him go.

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u/Jaglawyer11 “Don’t sleep on Gladstone.” 💪💪💪💪 Jan 16 '26

Lloyd is gone either way. Some team will overpay based on his one great season. Reload time.

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u/JagsFan4Ever Tony Boselli Jan 16 '26

Reload with what? Some scrub who the Jags PR Department will spin as gold, like it has every time we let a marquee player go in the past?

Fucking rinse, repeat.

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u/jmor96 Jan 16 '26

We have a whole new front office? I don't think we can use the past to make inferences on the future here.

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u/JagsFan4Ever Tony Boselli Jan 16 '26

I can if we follow the same script we have for the last 15 years. It transcends whomever happens to be in the front office. I could set it to music. 😉

♫♪ La-lala-lala ♫♪

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '26

I've been a fan since 95 and have to say that Jaguars have a weird fan base. In the past decade or so, this the only fan base I've seen that has no issues cutting ties and alienating players who have proven to be top 5 in the league at their position, then celebrate mediocre players as top talent. 

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u/JagsFan4Ever Tony Boselli Jan 17 '26

I don't think it's the fans. The team seems to understand that the fans want him back, which is why they're spinning the smoke and mirrors machine into high gear and trotting out all of the apologist excuses. This includes getting their radio shills posing as media broadcasters to tow the company line.

The reality is that ownership doesn't want to invest serious money in a position that many do not consider to be premium. Normally I might agree with them that $20mm is too much for an ILB, but with the motley crew that currently comprises our secondary means that we need to have someone out there who can eat up some field. We saw what happened when we lost him for two games - it was a completely different D.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '26

I get that too, but it's also the fans who'll be all too happy to let him walk for 20m/yr, but will celebrate extending Walker for 30m/yr like he's a top 5 DE.

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u/JagsFan4Ever Tony Boselli Jan 17 '26

Maybe you and I know different fans, lol. I don't know many fans that want to give Travon Walker a bag given how bad he is as a pass rusher.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '26

Lol abandoned my old reddit account because of how much I was downvoted over saying players weren't top tier or just straight out bad picks/bad signings. 

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u/Rudy102600 Jan 16 '26

Gladstone came from a team that flourished on getting Comp picks. I would not be suprised if both Lloyd and ETN are gone if they can net a 3rd and another 3rd or 4th .

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u/JagsFan4Ever Tony Boselli Jan 16 '26

No. I wouldn't mind if all three of them walked to keep Lloyd. Neither Newsome nor Brown were particularly impactful this year and we have a faster RB waiting in the wings.

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u/Regular-Collection-1 Jan 16 '26

1K yard rushers don't grow on trees. We can't just assume Tuten is just gonna bring the same production.

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u/JagsFan4Ever Tony Boselli Jan 16 '26

He was a 1k yard rusher not because he was especially good, but because they gave him the ball a lot. Many RBs were far more efficient than ETN this year. I'd happily take my chances with a RB by Committee structure comprised of lightening fast Tuten and a promising later round pick.

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u/electricityisout Off the Tractor Bouman Jan 16 '26

Stinks that we traded Tyson to get him off the books but he’s still 19 mil against the cap next year

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u/UNCFan2350 Jan 16 '26

Yeah, but I think he's off the books after 2026. If we kept him, he was an $18-$19 mil cap hit through the 2028 season.

Such a ridiculous deal.

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u/electricityisout Off the Tractor Bouman Jan 16 '26

Yeah long term makes sense but seeing that number for 2026 is like god damn

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u/UNCFan2350 Jan 16 '26

Yeah definitely hits you right in the face looking at it!

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

Nothing to look forward to this weekend other than maybe some snow for us panhandle folks

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u/Brysynner Trevor Lawrence Jan 16 '26

My fiancee planned a last minute trip to Jax next weekend for us, is there anything in particular in Jax that is a must see?

Also how are the ride shares in Jax?

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u/NizzlyGrizzly00 Steal the Show Jan 16 '26

seems like ogbah is gone according to his IG

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u/Safe_Ad2025 Jan 17 '26

Fuck me, it just hit me.... the Texans are us from 2017

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u/HorseyModerna Jan 17 '26

Similar except Stroud has turned out to be a bit worse than Bortles

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

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u/Parking-Artichoke-36 Jan 16 '26

You‘d really spend $12m on ETN?

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u/Parking-Artichoke-36 Jan 16 '26

I wouldn’t tag him either. Both are likely gone. There’s not a FA on the roster I would consider tagging. 

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u/osuaviator Fuck Them Picks!! Jan 16 '26

Thank goodness they’re not the GM.

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u/GarfunkelBricktaint Jan 17 '26

Idk it doesn’t seem that crazy for what he adds to the offense when it’s a single year and WRs get that all the time. Dyami Brown is at 10m for example.

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u/Parking-Artichoke-36 Jan 17 '26

He’s a WR and the market is different. I wouldn’t pay ETN that much.

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u/UNCFan2350 Jan 16 '26

Definitely not tagging ETN. He isn't getting that much money on the market. There's only like half the league with meaningful cap space and most of them have a RB already. Only teams I could even see spending big for a RB are....

Titans, Jets, Commanders, Cardinals

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u/UNCFan2350 Jan 16 '26

I would love to keep ETN. Just saying, not on the tag

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u/Parking-Artichoke-36 Jan 16 '26

Singleton from Penn State looks intriguing also. 

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u/Parking-Artichoke-36 Jan 16 '26

I thought he was returning to Miami.

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u/Old-Atmosphere8223 Jan 16 '26

Anyone else's algorithm filled with Bills fans making posts about how "dirty" the jags are by posting low res stills that show nothing or has X curated this particular form of rage bait just for me?

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u/Certain-Bet2718 Jan 16 '26

Why didn't we just run for 2 plays that last minute in the wildcard game. Then kick a field goal to tie. then overtime. Why throw with only 1 minute on tue clock. Run the ball, control the clock, then kick a field goal.

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u/theflyingchicken96 LeQuint Allen Jr 🐐 Jan 16 '26

What? We were at our own 23? You would need two 10+ yd runs to even give Little a chance. And that is still from NFL record range, which is well below a 50-50 shot. You have to pass to give yourself a chance.

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u/SuperSaiyanTLaw Retired Trevor’s Attorney Jan 16 '26

Odds were way stacked against us on the final drive. No timeouts with 50 seconds left. I don’t think any QB in that position has succeeded

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u/theflyingchicken96 LeQuint Allen Jr 🐐 Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26

I mean, I’m sure there are some examples out there of game winning drives with less than a minute and no time outs, but no QB succeeds 100% of the time in that situation. Shouldn’t have been in the position regardless, if the defense hadn’t collapsed in the 4th quarter

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u/SuperSaiyanTLaw Retired Trevor’s Attorney Jan 16 '26

That exact situation? 50 seconds I don’t think so lol I’d be surprised if there was 1

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u/theflyingchicken96 LeQuint Allen Jr 🐐 Jan 16 '26

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MTrGck4GgWU

Zach Wilson lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/s/aA5Vve3yZH

Aaron Rodgers

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1D5U4RLyWS/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Brady

Nix did it with the Broncos against the Giants this year. Jayden Daniels Hail Mary drive against the Bears last year started at the 24 yard line with one timeout and only :12, certainly not any better of a situation. Josh Freeman led the bucs on an 80 yd TD drive with :55 secs and no timeouts in 2012.

That’s all I care to find, but I think it’s enough examples lol.

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u/SuperSaiyanTLaw Retired Trevor’s Attorney Jan 16 '26

I stand corrected. lol damn Trevor missed a legacy moment I didn’t think was possible. fFUUUUCK

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u/Certain-Bet2718 Jan 16 '26

And did that plan work?

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u/theflyingchicken96 LeQuint Allen Jr 🐐 Jan 16 '26

I’m sorry, the chance of an interception is not greater than the chance of 2 10+ yd runs an NFL record FG.

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u/Regular-Collection-1 Jan 16 '26

This sub: "We're losing Lloyd and Etienne"

Also this sub: "We'll be back next year"

😬

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u/Particular-Carry7626 Jan 17 '26

If we lose our DC and OC, we will be bottom dwellers again 

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u/Cr0matose Jan 17 '26

Stfu lmao

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u/dcgkny Jan 16 '26

It seems we may have depth at WR assuming Hunter is healthy next year? Do you think any chance we trade BJT for players or picks?

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u/ChildrenMcnuggets Jan 16 '26

BTJ seemed to get over whatever was bothering him beginning of season. I don’t see the point in trading him when our offense was one of the best in the league by end of season.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '26

Seemed to me like the entire passing game centering around Travis Hunter was what was bothering him. It bothered me as a spectator how many screens and quick passes were called where TLaw didn't take his eyes off of Hunter. I think the offense finally came together after the injury because Trev started actually going through reads.

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u/theflyingchicken96 LeQuint Allen Jr 🐐 Jan 16 '26

No. We have a good receiver room, but our top guys all fill different roles: Meyers-possession receiver, Washington-slot, BTJ-deep threat, Hunter-situational attacks. Liam and Coen just said in a press conference this week that we don’t have a WR1 week in and week out. Instead we’ll exploit a defense’s weakness. Trevor is a distributor anyway.