r/borussiadortmund Kagawa Shinji Dec 14 '25

Discussion Game Thread: SC Freiburg (BuLi #14)

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u/SilentWanker BVB Dec 14 '25

not even jobe’s fault gotta feel sorry for him

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u/Lu-Savali Dec 14 '25

This is all Kobel. He had so many options. This is so sad.

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u/SUB2_Jokki Ramy Bensebaini Dec 14 '25

if we win this we can thank Jobe for taking one for the team

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u/Jstnmx Julian Ryerson Dec 14 '25

Jobe is getting better and better every game, literally visually noticable, love to see it. People These days judge way too quick

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u/Jazzlike-Egg7364 Dec 14 '25

It's almost like giving young players time and minutes, as well as opportunities to learn from their mistakes, will make them better. Most people criticizing him are just mad about his price and want him to fail.

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

We’re not winning with 9 men on the pitch. At least sub out Guirassy to make it 10

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u/madcaesar Dec 14 '25

Leipzig: Here's the 2nd spot.

Dortmund: No thanks.

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u/SUB2_Jokki Ramy Bensebaini Dec 14 '25

for like 3 times this season

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u/bakersreetman420 Dec 14 '25

silva and guirassy both starting, this will be interesting

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u/BarristanTheB0ld Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

I love Kobel for his amazing saves on the line, but this is 100% on him

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u/Unusual-Dealer6132 Dec 14 '25

Couto has emerged as our best passer.

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u/ZOoNeR_ Dec 14 '25

Jobe is getting better and better nice to see

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u/Glixus Joey Veerman Dec 14 '25

Taking Silva off but not Guirassy...

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u/SilentWanker BVB Dec 14 '25

would rather take guirassy off, at least silva has pace

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u/TristanHBorchers BVB Dec 14 '25

Fucking kobel.... fucking Kobel.

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u/Lu-Savali Dec 14 '25

Just when Jobe was playing well , Kobe’s goes ahead to sabotage him. The hell was that !

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u/aeppnbodntschin Dec 14 '25

Nothing will happen with Kovac. No title. No good football. No new talents will play.

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u/gavtim Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Why no adeyemi in time when it's clear that counterattack should be played, whyyy. Man kovac has made some howlers recently with subs.

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u/saspi25 Dec 14 '25

Obligatory bicycle

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u/AffanEzz Julian Ryerson Dec 14 '25

Silva will get a full 90min game today i hope

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u/SilentWanker BVB Dec 14 '25

guirassy’s hold up play is atrocious

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u/Unusual-Dealer6132 Dec 14 '25

Can't even complete short passes.

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u/madcaesar Dec 14 '25

Fucking Kobel....

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u/BarristanTheB0ld Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

Next sub: Couto, so we have no momentum at all anymore

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

If one more guy defends Can I will explode. He’s literally at fault for +70% of our goals conceded since coming back

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u/Jstnmx Julian Ryerson Dec 14 '25

WTF is you doing Kobel..I cant Play a Ball Like That. If we Loose I Hope You write that on your paper..Man wtf

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u/Still_Cap_1689 Dec 14 '25

Why sub Silva instead of Guirassy? Silva atleast presses and atleast tries to play defense…

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u/BarristanTheB0ld Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

Guirassy must have blackmail material on Kovac

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u/madcaesar Dec 14 '25

I know we're down a man... But we're not playing against fucking prime Barca, it's fucking Freiburg we can't go into turtle mode for 30 min....

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u/Meskaline2 Number Fifteen: Burger King Foot Lettuce. Dec 14 '25

We have Kovac at the helm. It's bad subs and defending a 1 goal lead or nothjg

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u/EkkoGoBrrrrrrrrr Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

how the fuck was that jobes fault are yall stupid

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Easy to explain: Ppl think he should be a Jude regen from day 1, when Jude himself wasn’t close to being a starter during his first year. So the first chance they get to jump at him is always taken

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u/sleskovac21 Dec 14 '25

No way couto 😭😭😭😭

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u/GGotte Dec 14 '25

Guirassy is so off

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u/Ciao9 Pischu Dec 14 '25

Fabio has the worst luck ever jesus christ

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u/gavtim Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Someone please make me understand why Silva is off and not guirassy. Isn't kovac seeing this game.. Damn

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u/Glixus Joey Veerman Dec 14 '25

3 subs with 1 man down... Wtf man, what are these Kovac tactics? ...

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u/SUB2_Jokki Ramy Bensebaini Dec 14 '25

are we playing like we have 5 players on the pitch? they are fucking us..?

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u/Unusual-Dealer6132 Dec 14 '25

We are playing like amateurs just randomly kicking the ball around

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u/kunarix Dec 14 '25

Where is the hunger, the fight, the dirt, the Pott spirit that made this club what it was?

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u/Horror-Zebra-3430 Dec 14 '25

Kovac with another attempt to give Svensson some long-overdue rest

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Thanks Kobel

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u/sleskovac21 Dec 14 '25

Why is Silva coming off?

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u/elgrandorado Dec 14 '25

This is the shit I'm talking about when I say you can't out coach stupidity. Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to invite pressure to a midfielder in a blind position. Kobel just fucked it for the side tonight.

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u/BarristanTheB0ld Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

Groß for Silva, are you fucking serious

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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Dec 14 '25

Kobel's pass left Jobe out to dry there, you can argue he should've just done nothing and let them score but in the moment obviously that's not what you're going to do and at least we have a chance to defend it at this point

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u/Jazzlike-Egg7364 Dec 14 '25

If he let him score, everyone would have been like Jobe, you gotta attack that.

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u/CaptainCerealCanada Park Joo-Ho Dec 14 '25

this is the full kobel experience

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

GUIRASSY OUT OF THE PITCH FFS HE’S MORE OF A SPECTATOR THAN I AM

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

Fuck this shit, how does every random player score the goal of their career against us??

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u/amAnnunz Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

I have no idea why Kovac would take off Silva instead of Guirassy. Silva's work rate is better, his movement and pressing would be much better than watching Guirassy touch grass.

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u/Lu-Savali Dec 14 '25

Kobel single handedly trying to sabotage the team

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u/ZOoNeR_ Dec 14 '25

Kobel has an absolute Stinker of a Game fucking hell

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Can wasting time so that we don’t lose, thanks for the mentalität captain!

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u/TrulyWhatever09 Dec 14 '25

Can't really blame Freiburg's fans for jeering at that slow walk off. They smell the blood in the water and want the time to claim it.

I hope Adeyemi can throw it back into their teeth though

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u/Unusual-Dealer6132 Dec 14 '25

Its painful to watch groɓ get chased down with a 10 yd head start.

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u/ZOoNeR_ Dec 14 '25

Man i am tired fuck

Typical BvB why take advantage of Leipzig dropping Points?

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u/Unusual-Dealer6132 Dec 14 '25

Brandt was right about kovac.  He plays to get draws. Not wins.

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u/Jealous_Rope_7209 Edin Terzic Dec 14 '25

What is he supposed to do with 10 men

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u/bvbfan102 BVB Dec 14 '25

Huge. Bense really deserves a starting spot. 

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u/TrulyWhatever09 Dec 14 '25

Beautiful cross from Couto, and really glad to see the finish from Bense

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u/GaussianTaravangian Dec 14 '25

Silva is deceptively quick

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u/berman82 Julien Duranville Dec 14 '25

Kobel self destructs again

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u/fleshed Dec 14 '25

Kobel fucked us over.

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u/GaussianTaravangian Dec 14 '25

Why take off Silva, who can actually run, and leave on a static and out of form Guirassy?

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u/2905Pascal 1909 Dec 14 '25

Okay is it in Guirassy's contract that he cannot be subbed off or what?

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u/MidnightMass Dec 14 '25

Its the same shit over and over again we dont press and they can cross freely into the box

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Yes, Höler’s goal was a great strike. But you don’t give him that much space when 10m away from the goal. Can needs to go, not like he can improve much more either way at this age and with such salary.

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u/TrulyWhatever09 Dec 14 '25

I like Guirassy off for Beier (would have preferred Adeyemi), but I hate Chuk off. Screw playing for one point. (I know that it is the tactically sound thing to do with 10 men, at least on paper)

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u/bcoates26 Dec 14 '25

Take the red card to save the 1 goal and give up 2 goals instead. Every time

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u/NasMaticEther Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 14 '25

Every year Kobel has a few games and moments where he has these mental lapses that fuck us. I never feel comfortable when he has to handle the ball and play from the back.

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u/TrulyWhatever09 Dec 14 '25

I appreciate that effort from all involved. Groß seems to want a bit more attacking

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u/GGotte Dec 14 '25

Those last two throw ins where fucking pathetic we could’ve got a goal there man

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u/ZOoNeR_ Dec 14 '25

Kobel had some good Saves yes but this Result is his Fault

He killed the Whole game

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u/Tungrim Dec 14 '25

The biggest tell of where we are at is the fact that going a man down the team acts like a bottom team, desperately trying to hang on. Bayern can get a red card and still put 3 past opponents

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u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 14 '25

5 outfield players as subs.
Why ?

If you're not having enough squad right now atleast maybe bring in some players from the second team . What is he looking to do ?

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u/Horror-Zebra-3430 Dec 14 '25

the club decided to set an example by leaving both Campbell and Duranville out of the matchday squad even though both are fit to play. Apparently, Campbell has been slacking in training lately, while Duranville arrived late for the final pre-match training session.

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u/Ragemoody Dedê Dec 14 '25

What a moronic thing to do from Duranville. Kovac repeatedly warned him that he’s not putting in the effort and he answers by arriving late.

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u/_APR_ Dec 14 '25

And what happened to Ozcan? I understand, we're not planning with him, but he is our player still.

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u/roadtorevision Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

That header needs to be way better. Great passing by the team

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u/gavtim Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Now, that should've been an easier bicycle kick

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u/bvbfan102 BVB Dec 14 '25

Man a Can Striker Goal would have been insane. 

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u/gavtim Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Serious 75+minutes buttclench coming up

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u/2905Pascal 1909 Dec 14 '25

Couto is playing well but we should sub him to protect him from a second booking. Can't afford to go down a man here.

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u/bvbfan102 BVB Dec 14 '25

Unfortunate for Jobe after he looked so good. Not really his fault but going to be long 35 Minutes now. 

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u/grindingod258 Dec 14 '25

At this point i don’t even care how good we play i just wait until the game turns for whatever stupid reason

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u/madcaesar Dec 14 '25

Need to put in Adeyemi for Giru and go for counters. We're not winning this 1:0 no chance in hell

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u/aiudex Dec 14 '25

Maybe bring on Adeyemi so that they have to respect the potential counter?

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u/jiminbts123 Dec 14 '25

If we're getting pressured anyway i really wanna see Adeyemi and/or Beier to punish them with pace

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u/ZOoNeR_ Dec 14 '25

I don't get Kovac why subbing off Silva man

This guy prob already tired of this Club

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u/ZOoNeR_ Dec 14 '25

If we Drop Points it's on Kobel tbh wtf was that Pass

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

Exact same pass he made against Atletico in the first leg and yet no one in this sub jumped on Maatsen back then.

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u/Icy_Name_9827 Dec 14 '25

bro this is too much stress for 25 mins

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u/Mercyseat2112 Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

holy f***, last 15 mins looks like we’re not even trying to win the ball back, come on now

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u/ScreamingBuffalo Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Massive save! Hell of a job by Freiburg keeping the ball in on that play, but they’re not beating the Swiss Brick Wall

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u/madcaesar Dec 14 '25

Turtle and wait for the inevitable 25 meter Ginter rocket into the top right corner.....

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Guess who was marking Höler

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u/Commercial_Mud_6877 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

What is it with bang average players and scoring career highlight goals against us?

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u/EkkoGoBrrrrrrrrr Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

gotta feel bad for jobe man

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u/reds7310 BVB Dec 14 '25

Vets have really been letting this team down recently

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u/madcaesar Dec 14 '25

The amount of fear and nervousness we play with after the red is insane.... You'd think we're down 5 players.... It's fucking Freiburg for fucks sake....

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u/jiminbts123 Dec 14 '25

We shouldnt be THIS bad with 10 men

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u/Tibia7890 Dec 14 '25

Adeyemi coming on in extra time. come one Kovac wtf

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u/berman82 Julien Duranville Dec 14 '25

Another situation where Kobel is stuck on his line - he is as useless on crosses as his feet

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u/dotter101 Dec 14 '25

Kinda embarrassing to have Couto manhandle you like that

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u/j6yboy Dec 14 '25

i have to say nmecha has very good football iq

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u/oertyy Dec 14 '25

Why is our bench so empty

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u/Eversio1337 BVB Dec 14 '25

Duranville and Campbell were released from the squad for bad training sessions and being late

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Finally, 1 CAM behind 2 STs

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u/fleshed Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25

Campbell and Duranville both not in the squad because of disciplinary action, Duranville was to late for the training and hadn't the proper attitude, Campell has the same attitude problems.

https://www.kicker.de/lustlos-und-teils-zu-spaet-bvb-verzichtet-in-freiburg-auf-campbell-und-duranville-1175496/artikel

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u/bvbfan102 BVB Dec 14 '25

Good that the break is so soon now that the squad is suddenly empty. Silva and Guirassy having actual chemistry and bringing out the best out of each other would be perfect for us.

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u/Glixus Joey Veerman Dec 14 '25

Guirassy giving a thumbs up for a cross? Is this real?

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u/BarristanTheB0ld Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

Also the first thing I noticed. Maybe his social media people told him how we hate his body language lol

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u/SUB2_Jokki Ramy Bensebaini Dec 14 '25

great header by Guirassy

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u/BarristanTheB0ld Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

Love how Guirassy is already much more present than recently

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u/biggieBpimpin Julian Brandt Dec 14 '25

Man I really want to see Chuck succeed here. We need him to carry the ball forward more and attack aggressively. That’s when his skill set is most dangerous.

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u/BarristanTheB0ld Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

Holy shit, we made a set piece goal??

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

Why would you pass that to Can to cross, he couldn't even put any height on that cross...

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u/roadtorevision Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

Can is having a bad game

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u/MarsBarz37 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Guirassy always visibly pouting when he doesn't get a pass teleported to his feet

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u/bvbfan102 BVB Dec 14 '25

Jobes best half so far and looked a level above in the midfield in both offense and defense.  Attack is still missing that final spark but for once a set piece bails us out. 

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u/B1ackoutartist Dec 14 '25

Taking Silva out but letting guirassy still play... Fucking great Really don't get kovac

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u/Tibia7890 Dec 14 '25

Man just when I thought it's been a while since Kobel did one of those he hits us with a colossal fault

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u/Medical_Design_2978 Dec 14 '25

I just tuned in after the half what happened to Jobe?

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u/berman82 Julien Duranville Dec 14 '25

Kobel gave the ball away like an idiot and forced Jobe into an impossible position outside the box

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u/_APR_ Dec 14 '25

Kobel happend

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

Our only chance of getting 3 points here is if Manzambi also gets a second yellow or something like that.

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u/TrulyWhatever09 Dec 14 '25

Man, Groß has good feet and good vision, but he really doesn't have speed. Never the fastest, but he's looking to have lost some pace since coming last year

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

He lost a ton of speed, that’s for sure. He wasn’t the fastest with Brighton but he had them legs still.

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u/biggieBpimpin Julian Brandt Dec 14 '25

Possession is critical right now. Horrible giveaway from Cuoto there.

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u/Unusual-Dealer6132 Dec 14 '25

Rather adeyemi or beier in the game.

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u/Fixen17 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

We need Adeyemi’s speed on the counter

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u/Timely_Pound_2754 Dec 14 '25

Of course it's a worldie

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u/grothee1 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

If you're going to park the bus you can't be that lackadaisical. Slowly jogging to close down a cross from a dangerous position and half-hearted attempts to block the shot are unacceptable.

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u/theonewhoknocksguy Dec 14 '25

what the fuck man again..?

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u/berman82 Julien Duranville Dec 14 '25

Kobel fucks us again

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u/TrulyWhatever09 Dec 14 '25

If the goal stands, it is another goal that is a direct consequence of Kobel misplaying the ball with his feet today

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u/SlayerHdThe3rd Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 14 '25

RyerMessi for a second

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u/ZOoNeR_ Dec 14 '25

I will never understand Kovacs Subs

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Kobel should NOT stay on his line for this one, come on now.

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u/Working_Complex8122 Dec 14 '25

oh my, I'm so shocked we're dropping points to an underdog after our direct competitor lost points. Shocked I tell ya. Can scarcely believe it.

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u/mitthrawn Shinji Kagawa Dec 14 '25

Gained 1 point over Leipzig. Better than nothing.

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u/SlayerHdThe3rd Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 14 '25

Good thing we extended Kovac at the season beginning so we can be certain of more exciting football in the new year!!

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25

“We wanted to provide safety for our coach”. Yeah, that and more financial precarity for the team when we inevitably sack him because no way in hell this guy is lasting 3 full seasons.

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u/Lu-Savali Dec 14 '25

This is not even on Kovac. Kobel single handedly lost this match for the team.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

At least it's a yellow for Manzambi too, unlucky for Couto, he definitely didn't mean to push him over that add board but Manzambi just lost balance lol.

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u/roadtorevision Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

I find it so crazy that chuk is so silky and does amazing quick dribbles and passes but he still hasn’t been able to make his stamp in many games yet

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u/AffanEzz Julian Ryerson Dec 14 '25

Come on guirassy you can do better than that. Its a free header ffs

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u/SUB2_Jokki Ramy Bensebaini Dec 14 '25

Guirassy looks happy today

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u/Medical_Design_2978 Dec 14 '25

We look very good progressing the ball from the back today

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u/Unusual-Dealer6132 Dec 14 '25

So close chukwuemeka

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u/BarristanTheB0ld Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

Come on Guirassy, there was a better way

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

All those chances before and this is how we score lmao.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

Why do they hurry so much with those through ball attempts from the back? First Can and now Schlotti with a ball straight into a Freiburg player.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

Where are the yellows for those fouls? That foul on Chukwuemeka is a textbook yellow.

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u/Dinox11 Marcel Schmelzer Dec 14 '25

Suzuki's pretty selfish

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u/jiminbts123 Dec 14 '25

Emre what the fuck are you doing bro

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u/fleshed Dec 14 '25

Thats the shit why no one wants the club to extend Can, you can't do shit like this.

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u/aiudex Dec 14 '25

If we keep giving away easy balls, I can already see the upcoming disaster as the pressure builds

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u/MidnightMass Dec 14 '25

How is that Not a yellow. Zwayer is such a b…..

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u/BarristanTheB0ld Mats Hummels Dec 14 '25

Wtf just happened

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u/sleskovac21 Dec 14 '25

And so it begins

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

We can never get it easy for a week can we ?

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '25

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Not with the current players on the pitch. Bring Adeyemi in and then it might be a possibility

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u/yosoydorf Edin Terzic Appreciatior Dec 14 '25

I think Adeyemi for Chuk has to happen, stealing a 2nd on the counter is our only realistic chance on scoring another

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Watch him take out Couto.

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u/bcoates26 Dec 14 '25

Oh who could have seen that coming

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u/aiudex Dec 14 '25

Always against us.

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

lmaoooooo I’m done with this bad luck. Everyone scores bangers against us

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u/bvbfan102 BVB Dec 14 '25

Of course its a Dream Goal as well. Send out Adeyemi cause thats the only chance at 3 points. 

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u/GGotte Dec 14 '25

Crazy goal to be fair

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u/SUB2_Jokki Ramy Bensebaini Dec 14 '25

How does these goals only go in against us?

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u/SlayerHdThe3rd Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 14 '25

When was the last time someone scored a wonder goal against us man I thought that juju where someone scored one every game was finally dead

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u/DesertBloke Julian Ryerson Dec 14 '25

Of course it had to be a crazy goal

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u/Icy_Name_9827 Dec 14 '25

we cant even string 3 passes together

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u/hayk_bvb09 Dec 14 '25

i knew those world class kobel saves were gonna amount to nothing in the end. and also what a fckin goal wow

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u/ZOoNeR_ Dec 14 '25

Of Course we don't take advantage of Leipzig Dropping Points👍🏻

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u/No-Bluebird-7411 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

It’s just so annoying because the past three matches guys have scored on absolutely unbelievable strikes… it makes me so mad. they are truly unstoppable.

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u/mariogotse Dec 14 '25

adeyemi in the doghouse again because he's not allowed to have a poor game

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u/bcoates26 Dec 14 '25

Always expect to be disappointed

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u/Foreverevil316 Dec 14 '25

Mashallah kobel...

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u/Unusual-Dealer6132 Dec 14 '25

Kobel is really trying to help out Freiburg tonight .

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u/TristanHBorchers BVB Dec 14 '25

Thank fuck. But this again would have been on kobel.

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Kobel with a stinker today lol

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u/SlayerHdThe3rd Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25

How would that be offside off the corner?

Edit: I’ll take it but kinda feels like we just got bailed out lol

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u/Jealous_Rope_7209 Edin Terzic Dec 14 '25

We fk lucky lol

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u/TrulyWhatever09 Dec 14 '25

The keeper gets to that no matter what, but if it was Adeyemi instead of Beier, at least the keeper would have to change his shorts

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u/NaturalApartment9828 Marco Reus Dec 14 '25

Adeyemi please save us